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[JoAnnW]

So they are at least 3 years old from date of purchase, and could have been sitting on a shelf for a year or so before that.

Do they have any charge on them? They may be totally dead, or with a voltage below 2.5 volts.

In any case, I'd put a PM in to Mooch to see what he says if I were you.

Thanks for the feedback.

This is why I wanted to know since I just found them when I was cleaning out a closet. They were in a cool dark place for 3 years since my date of purchase.

Back in the day, I was using this battery type in a vamo. I hate that I wasted this money but I'll just pitch for safety's sake.

Better safe than sorry.

 

[DaveP]

Candlepower forums say 3 to 5 years storage at 60% charge on lithium batteries. After that they start to develop internal resistance that can affect how well they hold a charge.

I have several AW 18650's that are up to five years old. They probably aren't as good as brand new ones, but they work fine. It's too many charges and discharges over time that wear out lithium batteries. They develop dendrite growth from heavy charge and discharge that can eventually begin to short out the internals. Charge them at a low setting .5A (500ma) to recondition them.

If they charge and work fine, I'd use them.

 

[VapieDan]

Yet another one!

GYRFALCON All - 88 Smart Battery Charger

 

[DaveP]

So, Sony isn't going to be making 18650 cells for sale to the general public? I just ordered 3 VTC4's for my RX200S from RTDVapor a few days ago. The battery life isn't what I expected, but they are 2100mah cells. On my xtar VC4 they charge up and show 2060mah capacity. Maybe they'll condition up to rated 2100mah capacity with a couple more cycles.

I'm going to order some LG HG2's (3000mah/20A) for the RX200S for longer vape times.

My Xtar VC4 is a new charger that I just ordered. It's a 4 bay charger, but won't charge more than 2 cells at 1A. For 3 or 4 cells it backs down to .5A. That's OK as long as you have another matched triplet to use while the first three are charging.

I like the VC4's display with its speedometer style charge indicators that give you a visual indication of the voltage level as the cells charge. It will give you a reading on the MAH capacity of the cells when charging is complete.

Review of the Xtar VC4.
Review of Charger Xtar VC4

 

[DaveP]

Seems that all the verified genuine battery vendors are out of stock on the LG HG2. I'm on the email list for when RTDVapor has them back in stock.

 

[DaveP]

Update on the Xtar VC4 charger. It was acting strangely when I tried to charge more than one battery at a time. It would start high and then downshift to as low as .375A. That's a long time to charge!

Long story short, the problem was my RooPower multiport USB wall power supply. It's rated at 2.1A per port up to the 8A max current level for multiple port use on the adapter. My AboveTek USB voltage/current meter showed it delivering 380ma when charging. I switched over to the EasyACC mutiport USB adapter and it worked as advertised, delivering 2A to the charger and charging two 18650's at 1A charge rate on each bay. The problem was the inability of my RooPower 8A 5 port adapter to deliver rated current.

So, if you have an Xtar VC4 that charges at lower current on the display than it should, try another USB wall power supply that's rated at 2A or higher per port. Just because it says it can do 2A doesn't mean it will.

Order this one from Xtar for $6.95 to get one you know will work.
5V 2.1A USB Wall Adaptor Plug

 

[Frenchfry1942]

@DaveP , didn't an appropriate USB wall power supply come with it?

Ahhh, I found it. No, doesn't come with it. Hmm

 

[DaveP]

@DaveP , didn't an appropriate USB wall power supply come with it?

Ahhh, I found it. No, doesn't come with it. Hmm

No, apparently they were shooting for competitive purchase price and thinking that everyone has a good 2A USB wall wart.

 

[BreSha6869]

No, apparently they were shooting for competitive purchase price and thinking that everyone has a good 2A USB wall wart.

I charged 4 new batteries last night and they took over 12 hours. 1 or 2 are quick, but 4 from 3.4v takes forever.

Does anyone know of a less expensive option for a 2A wall wart? $6.95 from XTAR is fine, but $24.95 shipping not so much!

Ideally Fasttech or similar....

Would something like this do the job? $6.17 Free Shipping PINENG WZTX-C072 USB Wall Charger Power Adapter (WZTX-C072, White, US) at m.FastTech.com

Thanks!

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I charged 4 new batteries last night and they took over 12 hours. 1 or 2 are quick, but 4 from 3.4v takes forever.

Does anyone know of a less expensive option for a 2A wall wart? $6.95 from XTAR is fine, but $24.95 shipping not so much!

Ideally Fasttech or similar....

Would something like this do the job? $6.17 Free Shipping PINENG WZTX-C072 USB Wall Charger Power Adapter (WZTX-C072, White, US) at m.FastTech.com

Thanks!

umm

This may work for you
XTAR 5V 2.1A US wall adaptor for XTAR VC4 charger | eBay

 

[BreSha6869]

umm

This may work for you
XTAR 5V 2.1A US wall adaptor for XTAR VC4 charger | eBay

Thx, but that is the same one from XTar. Still over $20 with shipping which is excessive for what it is....

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Thx, but that is the same one from XTar. Still over $20 with shipping which is excessive for what it is....

ebay said it was $6 something with free shipping from CA. You can't order fr ebay in Canada?

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

What about this?

https://www.amazon.ca/Charger-Spige...rd_wg=AcD6b&psc=1&refRID=VY0CC7F4A9E4B4BVT4KW

 

[BreSha6869]

ebay said it was $6 something with free shipping from CA. You can't order fr ebay in Canada?

Yup. Only from ebay.ca though. $7.50US plus $13 shipping.

 

[BreSha6869]

What about this?

https://www.amazon.ca/Charger-Spigen®-2-Port-folding-000AD20245/dp/B01CRBK7S4/ref=pd_rhf_ee_s_cp_6?ie=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B01CRBK7S4&pd_rd_r=VY0CC7F4A9E4B4BVT4KW&pd_rd_w=tonuQ&pd_rd_wg=AcD6b&psc=1&refRID=VY0CC7F4A9E4B4BVT4KW

Now that's more like it S&S. Thanks for being my personal shopper.

Used my Prime for free shipping and this will likely be much better quality than the XTAR one.

Ordered.

Thank you!

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Now that's more like it S&S. Thanks for being my personal shopper.

Used my Prime for free shipping and this will likely be much better quality than the XTAR one.

Ordered.

Thank you!

YW. Glad I could help.

 

[Barkuti]

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Use a high quality cable without connector damage or wire pinches, as the voltage drop over the cable is proportional to the amount of current crossing it times its resistance, connectors included.

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Have a nice day lasses and lads

 

[aLyr]

classwife,

though you have the status of an administrator here, could you please refrain from starting threads which lead to nearly nothing?

This is no fun, to say the very least.

Regards,
aLyr

 

[muth]

will likely be much better quality than the XTAR one.

That's my question. I've been on various battery forums, etc. about the XSTAR VC4 wall wart. I've heard a complaint about the Xstar brand and wanted to know what the issue was and what would be my better options. Thanks.

 

[BreSha6869]

That's my question. I've been on various battery forums, etc. about the XSTAR VC4 wall wart. I've heard a complaint about the Xstar brand and wanted to know what the issue was and what would be my better options. Thanks.

I love the VC4 and just bought a 2a wall watt from Amazon. Works perfectly.