Updated!! Pennsylvania: 40% tax = game over for vape

[sonicdsl]

I was reading the bill again and there is a bit of a catch 22 in regards to filing a purchase as an unclassified importer. When filing the month following a purchase, you are exposed to a summary offense ($100 to $1000 fine plus costs) for possession of a tobacco product where the tax has not been paid. The only way to be in the clear: submit the tax after making an out-of-state purchase, but before receiving the shipment.

 

[Mrmik]

I was reading the bill again and there is a bit of a catch 22 in regards to filing a purchase as an unclassified importer. When filing the month following a purchase, you are exposed to a summary offense ($100 to $1000 fine plus costs) for possession of a tobacco product where the tax has not been paid. The only way to be in the clear: submit the tax after making an out-of-state purchase, but before receiving the shipment.

That's where the money will come from..... FINES!

 

[zoiDman]

That's where the money will come from..... FINES!

Yeah... And when the Administration and Enforcement Costs are more then the fines Collected, they can just dream up another Crazy Tax to put on People.

BTW - Isn't this the State that has some Bell with the words "Proclaim Liberty Throughout All the Land Unto All the Inhabitants thereof." on it?

 

[oplholik]

Yeah... And when the Administration and Enforcement Costs are more then the fines Collected, they can just dream up another Crazy Tax to put on People.

BTW - Isn't this the State that has some Bell with the words "Proclaim Liberty Throughout All the Land Unto All the Inhabitants thereof." on it?

Yeah, I guess the meaning has been lost over the years.

 

[MikeE3]

BTW - Isn't this the State that has some Bell with the words "Proclaim Liberty Throughout All the Land Unto All the Inhabitants thereof." on it?

Yeah ... but it's cracked!

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Just saw this
Glimmer of hope for Pennsylvania's 40% vape tax - Vaping360

 

[zoiDman]

Just saw this
Glimmer of hope for Pennsylvania's 40% vape tax - Vaping360

We Definitely Need more Glimmers.

From the Article you linked to....

"Sen. Camera Bartolotta’s bill will be similar to a house bill (HB 2342) introduced by Rep. Jeff Wheeland. Both efforts would replace the floor tax and the ongoing 40 percent wholesale tax with a five-cents-per-milliliter tax on all e-liquids."

Regular Session 2015-2016 House Bill 2342 P.N. 3860

and...

"Pennsylvania vapers are also holding a rally at the state capitol in Harrisburg on September 26, 1:00 p.m. at the main rotunda. This is a great chance to show that vapers care about protecting the small businesses that help us all!"

 

[webb]

Weird isn't litecigusa from PA ? I just bought some stuff from them on BF.Prices very good.

 

[zoiDman]

I believe they are PA based. And have 3 Retail Locations as well.

LiteCigUSA Retail Store Locations

 

[r77r7r]

Weird isn't litecigusa from PA ? I just bought some stuff from them on BF.Prices very good.

BF?Edit nm, got it now

 

[webb]

Black Friday.

 

[blueish]

Sent my first check in last week. Didnt realize they are charging sales tax on the vapor tax. So, if you make a $100 purchase, you owe 40% of $100 for the vapor tax. Then you also owe 6% of $140 for sales tax. Cheaper than cigs, I'll pay it. Just wish they'd realize that we're vaping to be healthier and not penalize us for it. Almost 4 years cig free now because of vaping...

 

[blueish]

I believe they are PA based. And have 3 Retail Locations as well.

LiteCigUSA Retail Store Locations

If they're PA based, did they charge you the vape tax? I heard they can get in trouble if they don't.

 

[Rossum]

Sent my first check in last week. Didnt realize they are charging sales tax on the vapor tax. So, if you make a $100 purchase, you owe 40% of $100 for the vapor tax. Then you also owe 6% of $140 for sales tax. Cheaper than cigs, I'll pay it. Just wish they'd realize that we're vaping to be healthier and not penalize us for it. Almost 4 years cig free now because of vaping...

"When law and morality contradict each other, the citizen has the cruel alternative of either losing his moral sense or losing his respect for the law."
-- Frédéric Bastiat

 

[r77r7r]

Looks like Litecig doesn't sell to Pa.

 

[SteveS45]

Taxing a tax? That just doesn't seem right!

 

[GBalkam]

What about mail order by internet? For example, I order from a company based in Arizona. I can't get e-juice due to Canada still not allowing nicotine imports, but that is Customs Canada.. I can order all I want within the country, from Canadian based vendors, just not from the US or overseas. Kidney Puncher offers free shipping over $75.00 I believe. You may still have to pay the sales tax, but I doubt they add the "floor" tax, since they don't have that in Arizona. I'll probably start ordering my DIY flavors from there when I order my wire. LOL God knows, I need more.. only have 800 feet of wire now. LOL. Need some 22ga though.

 

[blueish]

I don't know how it works if a PA vendor sells to someone out of the state. We have to report purchases we make from out of state vendors and pay the taxes on that. There's a pretty hefty penalty if we don't report.

 

[GBalkam]

I don't know how it works if a PA vendor sells to someone out of the state. We have to report purchases we make from out of state vendors and pay the taxes on that. There's a pretty hefty penalty if we don't report.

Yeah, but who actually bothers doing it? That's one of those laws that it costs more to enforce than the revenue it would bring in. Can you imagine what a judge would say if the prosecutor had someone in court over $5 in sales tax?

 

[webb]

If they're PA based, did they charge you the vape tax? I heard they can get in trouble if they don't.

No tax and free shipping.But there was a note at checkout saying they would not ship to PA.