What's the difference between these 2 flavorings?

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They're both sweeteners, I'm wondering what the difference is
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They're both sweeteners. TFA Sweetener is a 10% sucralose (Splenda) solution, which can form crystals in low temperature (warm it to re-dissolve), and can gunk your coils if used at higher percentages. Ethyl Maltol produces a cotton candy flavor at higher percentages, but can sweeten and "round out" recipes at the lower end. If used for sweetness above 1.5%, it can really mute the other flavors.

I sometimes use these in combination (generally 0.5% each), but I find that many--even most--recipes don't require additional sweetening for me.
 

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They're both sweeteners. TFA Sweetener is a 10% sucralose (Splenda) solution, which can form crystals in low temperature (warm it to re-dissolve), and can gunk your coils if used at higher percentages. Ethyl Maltol produces a cotton candy flavor at higher percentages, but can sweeten and "round out" recipes at the lower end. If used for sweetness above 1.5%, it can really mute the other flavors.

I sometimes use these in combination (generally 0.5% each), but I find that many--even most--recipes don't require additional sweetening for me.

Thanks so much for the explanation!
 

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Ethyl Malto is not really a sweetener malto is used more as a mask to meld and blend flavors and not have one flavor stand out over the other. It gives the effect of sweetness by enhancing the sweetness of an already sweet flavor but does not actually sweeten. It also adds thickness and body to a vape.
If its actual sweetness you want use sweetener such as sucralose or Splenda and not EM, EM can actually mute flavor. In either case use no more then 1 - 1.5% and taste before sweetening as you will find most sweet flavors are already sweet enough. Above 2% you will start to burn and clog coils quickly.
 
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They're both sweeteners. TFA Sweetener is a 10% sucralose (Splenda) solution, ...

No. Sucralose is Not Splenda.

Splenda is a Registered Trademark of a Sweetener that contains a Very Small Amount of Sucralose. The Bulk of Splenda is Dextrose and Maltodextrin.

Splenda - Wikipedia

TFA does Not Use Splenda in their Sweetener. It is made of PG, Water and Sucralose.

Perfumers Apprentice - Sweetener
 

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So what do you all think is best?

If I had to add sweetness, I'd lean towards EM if the recipe's flavors had some harsh edges, but would favor sucralose-based Sweetener otherwise. I've often done half-and-half with them both, because of some trivia stuck in my brain about the synergy of combining different artificial sweeteners. But I think it's best not to use any, since both PG and VG taste sweet, and many common flavoring ingredients will impart sweetness too. Nowadays, my first mix test is done without any sweetener.

No. Sucralose is Not Splenda.

Right you are, and in fact there are now some Splenda products that don't contain any sucralose at all. ChelsB, I didn't mean to imply that you should use Splenda-brand sweetener to mix your own e-liquid sweetener; you shouldn't. I just wanted to give you a handle on what sucralose was and where you may have encountered it before, in case you hadn't run across the name before.
 

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If I had to add sweetness, I'd lean towards EM if the recipe's flavors had some harsh edges, but would favor sucralose-based Sweetener otherwise. I've often done half-and-half with them both, because of some trivia stuck in my brain about the synergy of combining different artificial sweeteners. But I think it's best not to use any, since both PG and VG taste sweet, and many common flavoring ingredients will impart sweetness too. Nowadays, my first mix test is done without any sweetener.



Right you are, and in fact there are now some Splenda products that don't contain any sucralose at all. ChelsB, I didn't mean to imply that you should use Splenda-brand sweetener to mix your own e-liquid sweetener; you shouldn't. I just wanted to give you a handle on what sucralose was and where you may have encountered it before, in case you hadn't run across the name before.

Thanks, @man00ver, I appreciate the information very much
 
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