Deeming regs claim a major victim.
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Sadly, I only own one Provari. I was hoping to get another when I got my taxes but it looks like that's not gonna happen.
I love my 2.5. It may be the epitome of a "douche flute" but with its 18650 adapter that thing has enough heft to it I dare anyone to call it that to my face.
I love my 2.5. It may be the epitome of a "douche flute" but with its 18650 adapter that thing has enough heft to it I dare anyone to call it that to my face.
Sadly, I only own one Provari. I was hoping to get another when I got my taxes but it looks like that's not gonna happen.
I love my 2.5. It may be the epitome of a "douche flute" but with its 18650 adapter that thing has enough heft to it I dare anyone to call it that to my face.
You should still be able to find one in dealer stock after tax returns come in.
The idea that this was due entirely or even mostly to regs is nonsense. They focused of a specific type of product with a dwindling market share.
If business was good, they'd ride it out right until the end. You don't fold a successful business because of something that will/might happen in 1.5 years. This ain't rocket science.
If business was good, they'd ride it out right until the end. You don't fold a successful business because of something that will/might happen in 1.5 years. This ain't rocket science.
Not sad at all. If you can appreciate some good old American craftsmanship and some "heft" in your hand then you should.I'm tempted to buy one that I will never use just so I have one.
How sad is that? And in how many ways is that sad?
Well, if the timing allows them to blame the FDA then I say why the hell not? Certainly can't hurt the cause.
There were a few reasons Provape closed. Most of them can be blamed on the regs(biggest part being lack of ability to put out new products in a timely manner). The others can be blamed on lack of personal responsibility and other stupid political moves.
Few people know or remember the multi-million dollar law suit filed against Provape within a couple weeks of prop 65 passing in CA because ONE bottle of juice got shipped without the warning. That settlement and associated lawyer fees, was paid by David and his partner out of their pockets. Being a partnership David and his partner have a huge personal stake in things like this. Now we have a potential class action suit targeting the entire vape industry and leaning toward hitting the biggest manufacturers because people refuse to take responsibility for their own actions.
The market didn't leave Provape behind like a lot of people think. In fact there was actually a surge in sales starting because of the market trends and the crap being pumped out of other manufacturers. The radius line, Procyon line and two other projects in the works were gaining Provape new customers and new business as a component supplier.
The biggest problem here in the states that I see is people have a throw away mentality when it comes to their money. What I mean by that is people buy cheap low quality crap that breaks or has what manufacturers call "Planned obsolescence" and don't care that they will end up spending up to 20 times more in replacements than they would have if they got a high quality product to begin with.
There were more reasons than price for people choosing other than Provape products. Should I have bought one even though disliking the product and the behavior of the company?
Should a person be faulted for not paying premium price for a product during a recession?
I was just wondering if you have inside information or is this just your speculation?
While I do agree that Provape made high quality mods, I think your 20 times more in replacements is a huge exaggeration.
As for as the "throw away mentality" I typical like to buy one thing that will last, but when the technology is not mature, that don't always make sense. It's not always "planed obsolescence" often it's just the march of technology.
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Wow, they've got the Pass Through car kit. I bought one of those with my original P2.5 kit three years ago, and never used it. I may put it to use yet if I ever get to take another of my beloved road trips.
I bought essentially every possible option & accessory for the P2.5 on that order and multiples of some of them. The P2.5 remains my primary APV to this day. I also bought a spare a little while back, tested it upon delivery, and stashed it. Don't know if I'll ever need it, but it's reassuring to know it's there.
You have your reasons and that's fine. I wasn't just talking about provape in that statement though. More of the general trend I see.
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While the rest of the world is still introducing new products daily, amurican companies are shutting down daily
Thanks FDA
Thanks FDA
Yep. According to Zen, when he proposed buying provape and just ceasing sales in the US, investors refused saying why make products in the US if you can't sell them here and still can't bring out improvements or new products because your in the US.
I'm still not clear how the Chinese are introducing new products into the US. I thought no new products could be introduced into the US without being approved. Is the FDA just not policing this?
They cannot stop foreign companies from making and selling products.
Just look at the new products being released lately.
They don't have the budget, and the other agencies have their hands full with other, more important things.
You can order direct from factories.
The FDA war on vaping is a failure so far, along with the other wars the government has.
Now in future, who knows!
They are just killing Amuracan companies, and jobs.
They could stop shipments at the ports or remove them from stores if the had the will, personnel and budget, but like you said, it looks like the don't. When the date came and went, most people speculated that this would be what they would be doing. They also speculated that the new products flooding the market, at that time, must have been released in small numbers to get around the regs, but this doesn't seem to be the case now, as it's been too long ago.
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