PG is the biggest pain for me. Syringes with blunt tips and it's still very difficult. I tried granulated cylinders with a funnel still a pain. How do you do it??
VG is a pain. Best and easy way to measure+tranfer
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I mix 200 ml about once a month. 1 liter plastic bottles for pouring vg and pg. 250 ml amber bottle for pouring nic. All in one flavor comes from a dripper bottle. I pour directly in to graduated glass cylinders, no funnels. No spills so far.
I could see it being easier with larger batches. I'm a Nubie at diy still trying flavors and figuring what works best for me. I mix all 30ml bottles till I strike a very good recipe that works for me then I will upgrade to larger batches
Using 30ml bottles.
Leave the VG as the last ingredient and just top off the bottle with VG, that's in a 8oz yorker top bottle.
You could also leave the needle off the syringe.
Some people will warm the VG, so it's thinner.
Leave the VG as the last ingredient and just top off the bottle with VG, that's in a 8oz yorker top bottle.
You could also leave the needle off the syringe.
Some people will warm the VG, so it's thinner.
I use this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B010BWOOXA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It sucks up and distributes the VG/PG like a charm and easy to clean. I also find if I do the PG first, it lubricates the syringe to where the VG is easier to work with.
Pop the plunger out of the syringe then fill the desired amount, put the plunger back in and push. VG in a syringe is a bit of a hassle, cool VG is a pain. Once you get goin in DIY, find a juice you like then you'll start to use larger containers. I found wire top jars in the dollar store 50ml up to 500ml and they work great to mix and steep, mini funnels from ebay china to transfer into smaller jugs. I can't remember where I read it(just the other day) but order of ingredients does matter with some concentrate flavors or your juice might go cloudy. My order is PG, flavoring then mix...VG then mix... let sit overnight to subside the bubbles then add the nic and mix again but not as vigorous as the first mixings.
I use 12 gauge needles for measuring 30ml or less of VG. They're big enough that, with a little patience, it's not too difficult.
Here's an assortment, all the way up to 8 gauge:
Assortment
Here are some really long ones for bigger bottles:
5" 12 gauge
Here's an assortment, all the way up to 8 gauge:
Assortment
Here are some really long ones for bigger bottles:
5" 12 gauge
Works like a charm! I use this method all the time as my juices are max VG and its less mess than any other method Ive tried thus far.
I read that some of those syringes you buy in places like ebay, ect aren't accurate, so you should calibrate them if your able. I used syringes when I first got into DIY and found them at my local vet, they were 1ml - 60ml and accurate. I also got some larger diameter needles and blunted them myself at the same vet. I educated them a bit on what I was doing with them, they were more impressed I quit smoking, vape and make my own juice and not a junkie. I then bought a scale and never looked back.
Since I always use the exact same syringes I get the same results every time so accuracy is achieved. I have been thinking of getting a scale for my next big DIY session but thats over a month in the future so Ive got lots of time to shop around!
You can...
...get a scale. Do bigger batches of unflavored base; if the batch is big enough (at least 100mL) a kitchen scale down to 1g is enough. Use 1,25 as density for calculating the mL you want.
...get lab glas bottles with a rough scale and use that.
...get a scale. Do bigger batches of unflavored base; if the batch is big enough (at least 100mL) a kitchen scale down to 1g is enough. Use 1,25 as density for calculating the mL you want.
...get lab glas bottles with a rough scale and use that.
That's a good idea for 2 reasons: First, because the VG is thick and you can just pour it in rather than measuring it. Second, VG is the ingredient that some less soluable flavorings won't easily mix well with. If ALL other ingredients are in the mix bottle first, and then shaken to mix them well...when adding the VG last, the problem doesn't occur.
A way to easily draw out VG with a syringe is: Put the tip in the VG and pull the plunger up to a desired measurement mark. Just hold it there. The VG will rise up in the syringe to that level...on its own. You're not pulling trying to "suck it up" to the mark. It's also even easier if you'll use a larger syringe, like a 12mL one. They're really cheap at Tractor Supply, back in the animal meds section.
Going to weight based measuring was one of the best decisions for taking my DIY to the next level.
Mixing By Weight: Basics 101
One of these,
https://www.amazon.com/American-Wei...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=41AAT6ZM455DDX8RRETM
And a couple of these,
https://www.amazon.com/ChefLand-Squ...073&sr=1-6&keywords=condiment+squeeze+bottles
and ditch the syringes.
e-liquid recipes . com calculates the grams for you, just check grams in the preferences
https://www.amazon.com/American-Wei...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=41AAT6ZM455DDX8RRETM
And a couple of these,
https://www.amazon.com/ChefLand-Squ...073&sr=1-6&keywords=condiment+squeeze+bottles
and ditch the syringes.
e-liquid recipes . com calculates the grams for you, just check grams in the preferences
i still use luer lock syringes regularly but, other than first week years back, i never use a needle on them when using them for VG and have no issues sucking up VG that way even when i use the 1ml syringes. (don't shake VG beforehand)
the tall skinny plastic 50ml cylinders, i use once in a while (without a funnel). if you carefully run it around under hot/warm faucet water right before pouring VG mix out of it, it will thin VG enough to not leave VG stuck on sides.
the tall skinny plastic 50ml cylinders, i use once in a while (without a funnel). if you carefully run it around under hot/warm faucet water right before pouring VG mix out of it, it will thin VG enough to not leave VG stuck on sides.
Wow, a lot of weight fans replying. I didn't have to buy a gram scale, as I've owned them for decades. And, I've read the advocacy of using them for measuring eLiquids quite a bit, here on ECF. Whatever works for you is the right way for you. I measure liquids by volume, as god intended, LOL.
Large batches 60 ml and over: Can pour VG into a large 60 mL Syringe with Cap in summer----$0.41ea--1ea Or use two shots of 30 ml. syringe in winter. I'm too busy tasting 40-50 little 5 ml samples, I hardly have time to mix/stock my 60ml/ADV juices. If I want more than one 60ml mix, it is easier to do two 60ml of one ADV juice. On a mixing day, I might do 4-5 60ml. sizes at the most.
I use my large ADV mixes as emergency supply stock when I run out of 5 ml test mixes. I'm DIY taste chaser/mixer.
PG/flavors no flow syringe problems any time of year.
PG I measure with a syringe or graduated cylinder along with nicotine in VG and flavorings in a syringe. The VG I dispense into the graduated beaker I am mixing last.
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