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  1. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    Yes, crazy, busy year for me. So happy to see the thread alive and well, with many old friends still around, and participating. I miss this place too, ghola1was! Funny to see the same old arguments and debates. I've found what works for me, and get quite excited when others discover the methods...
  2. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    I've used the ArtBin containers for some of my bottles. They have many sizes, including 4" tall large sizes that will work for bottles, and they have adjustable partitions, as well. I probably still use maybe six of them for my sample bottles in different sizes now. They stack and store easily...
  3. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    Peaches and pears is very nice. Also, sweet and sour and bubble gum can do nice things to off target juices. Lots of choices. Good luck! :toast: :D :thumb: :vapor:
  4. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    Not sure I know what a definate is, but I hoped you enjoyed them! :toast: :D :thumb: :vapor:
  5. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    I would recommend TFA Sweetener or cotton candy if you don't have the sweetener. Flavor to taste, so perhaps 1-2% to start and increase to suit your preferences. By the way, I don't like my café mocha either, but made it for a friend. Not a big fan of coffee flavored juices, though coffees do...
  6. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    I have found that grape has to be mixed strawberry to both enhance the correct flavoring and reduce the chemical/floral notes in the grape. After mixing, and adding common secondary and supporting flavorings, it works like a charm. I have several grape recipes using these combos. Grape works...
  7. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    What a great looking recipe, and such a rich description of your process and reasoning! Love your explanation of the layering of vanillas and sweeteners, and heartily agree with your method! I use both raspberry and strawberry to round out my fruits and cut the chemical/floral notes, like you...
  8. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    Sounds divine, both do. Have you posted these recipes? Love to see them! :toast: :D :thumb: :vapor:
  9. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    Doesn't ring any bells for me, and I'm wondering if there is a question here?
  10. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    I've used the French Vanilla Cream in several recipes, most notably my milkshake base flavoring, which is a legitimate base/stone/milk. However, I do use the original French Vanilla Deluxe which contains the diketones. The French Vanilla Cream is essentially the same flavoring without the...
  11. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    Well done. A labor of love! Good for you! Quit smoking and do mathematics! Gonna be a great year! Good luck! :toast: :D :thumb: :vapor:
  12. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    The chart is simple on the pre-dilution, as follows: ..................(<<<<Mixture>>>>) Percentage...Flavor.........PG Drops......Mixture 5.0%..........1 drop.........0 drops.........Add 1 drop of mixture to 19 drops of PG 2.5%..........1 drop.........1 drop..........Add 1 drop of mixture to...
  13. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    Your vapor tongue and lack of taste will return quicker than you might believe, though it may not have returned yet. Besides, you're mixing for your current sense of taste anyway, which may require more flavoring to get the best results for you. Thank goodness you're making your own juice! DIY...
  14. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    To start with less than 5%, say 3%, take one drop of flavoring and add two drops PG. Take one drop of the mixture and add the 19 drops for a 3% starting point. For a 2%, add three PG drops to the one flavoring and use as one drop to nineteen drops. For one percent, add one drop to four drops PG...
  15. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    While I don't personally have that issue with alcohol flavorings, waiting with them in an open beaker (largest surface area possible for dissipation), will be helpful to you, imho. Even so, I'm only trying to find a starting point for the flavoring, and all other factors can be ignored at this...
  16. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    :thumb: I would say that starting percentages of TFA flavorings is definitely "On Topic." In testing for starting flavor strength, I use PG and flavoring only. My goal is to get within 2% or so of the right strength, which I will adjust to a final strength when I do 100DT's. Could you use a...
  17. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    My friend, all of us have to change recipes to suit our tastes. I assume that any recipes I post will be changed by all of you to suit your preferences. There's no way that my juice will match your vaping preferences and gear, and, so, they must be adjusted. However, recipes point us in the...
  18. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    We don't often see much posting about our powerful sense of smell, and I'm glad you raised this point, in reference to flavor testing. In my own experience, I've been absolutely stunned that my rather poor sense of smell has been so very helpful in making juice, particularly copying juices made...
  19. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    The Flavoring Chart that I use is on the Dropbox. My signature line has the link for the dropbox. Works easy peasy! Good luck! :toast: :D :thumb: :vapor:
  20. Bill's Magic Vapor

    The Flavor Apprentice Flavoring Thread

    €€€€ Many, many thanks! :toast: :D :thumb: :vapor: