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Depends...... lately 70/30 VG/PG for DL and 25/75 for MTL

God, I'm gonna have nightmares

If it did this out of the box, send it back and get a replacement.

That's more like it, but I gotta have blue cheese on my burger.

Geez, I think some people miss the point of a burger. More crap doesn't equal better.

Why do I have an almost irresistible urge to try this?

Agreed, I have no desire to see what a shorted battery does either. Well, at least not at close range.

I can't picture how that could happen. The positive side is insulated from the rest of the battery (negative). So in order for the current to bypass the coil (unless there's a short up there) would be if the current jumped the insulation. which would not be the path of least resistance. A tear...

The current would still be going through the coil, so it's not really a short, as the resistance is not going to change, like would be this case if your positive shorted to the mod chassis. Correct? Sent from my LG-K550 using Tapatalk

I'd agree that the grommets and the insulation around the top are very important as that's the area where the positive and negative sides of the battery are in close proximity. As for the wrap around the rest of the battery, it does keep the positive and negative terminals as far away from each...

That's a good point. I was operating under the assumption that the battery was installed in the correct orientation. And I was originally thinking in terms of regulated mods, not mechs.

My question was basically how could a tear in the negative side of a battery, making contact with the negative chassis of the mod cause a short. So far, no one has offered an explanation, everyone has just repeated that it was dangerous.

I will coincide that a tear in the top could cause a short under certain conditions, but I'm still thinking that a tear in the side, if you don't have a bottom switch, shouldn't be an issue. That being said, it's still smart to replace wraps as a tear will just get worse and I was never arguing...

Yeah that true, it would autofire not short.

I suppose if the top corner was torn that might happen. Mods that have cylindrical battery compartments where the battery slides in from the bottom or top (Think Pico or mech) would not be able to short like this.

Yeah, I've always rewrapped my batteries and it is very easy. It takes, at most, 5 minutes. I will continue to rewrap. I was just thinking about all the warnings about how dangerous torn wraps can be, but I've never read a good explanation as to why. The bottom is negative, as are the sides and...

I've always heard that it was dangerous to use batteries with torn wrappers and I've always accepted this to be true. But I was thinking about this today, and if the casing of the battery is negative and the chassis of the mod is used as the negative leg of the circuit, why could this be...

I can relate to this one. I have had dogs that would swear up and down that they had no idea what happened to the stuffed animals. ;)

Yeah, you might be right, technology does have a habit of changing overnight, while you're not looking. Hopefully this whole mess will work itself out and we'll be back in business at some point. I find it hard to believe that there will be a lasting probation on ecigs.

18650s are pretty ubiquitous. I don't think there's much to worry about in the near future.