2016 MTF survey exposes, refutes lies by SG Murthy about teens and vaping

[Bill Godshall]

New 2016 NIDA funded Monitoring the Future (MTF) survey exposes, refutes many of SG Murthy’s lies about teen vaping and smoking; finds (since 2015):
- New record lows for lifetime, past month, daily and ½ pack+/day cigarette smoking
- Cigarette smoking among 8th graders declined 28% (from 3.6% to 2.6%)
- Cigarette smoking among 10th graders declined 22% (from 6.3% to 4.9%)
- Cigarette smoking among 12th graders declined 9% (from 11.4% to 10.5%)
- Past month e-cig use among 8th graders declined 35% (from 9.5% to 6.2%)
- Past month e-cig use among 10th graders declined 21% (from 14.0% to 11.0%)
- Past month e-cig use among 12th graders declined 23% (from 16.2% to 12.5%)
- E-cig use by teens has declined for the past two years (as smoking rates kept falling)
- 24.9% of 12th grade e-cig users reported vaping nicotine, 62.8% vaped flavored e-cigs
(documents for 2nd year in a row that most teen vapers don’t vape nicotine or tobacco)
Monitoring the Future 2016 Survey Results

The headline of today's MTF press release
"Vaping, hookah use by US teens declines for first time"
is false, as the 2015 MTF also reported a decline in overall teen vaping
(and declines among 10th and 12th graders)
http://www.monitoringthefuture.org//pressreleases/16cigpr_complete.pdf

Also, note that the 2016 MTF survey data on Table 1 at
http://monitoringthefuture.org/data/16data/16cigtbl1.pdf
http://www.monitoringthefuture.org//pressreleases/16cigpr_complete.pdf
has mysteriously eliminated all 2014 MTF e-cig usage data for 8th, 10th and 12th graders,
and has changed the 2015 MTF e-cig usage data for 8th, 10th and 12 graders.

2104 and 2015 MTF e-cig usage data is on page 20 of last year's MTF press release
http://monitoringthefuture.org/pressreleases/15Edrtbl.pdf

Mike Siegel: Claims that youth e-cigarette use leads to smoking are destroyed; 2016 Monitoring the Future survey shows steep decline in smoking
The Rest of the Story: Tobacco News Analysis and Commentary: Claims that Youth E-Cigarette Use Leads to Smoking are Destroyed; 2016 Monitoring the Future Survey Shows Steep Decline in Smoking

 

[Mazinny]

I started a thread about this report about 15 minutes before this, but this post is a lot more comprehensive. Feel free to close my thread mods !

 

[Bill Godshall]

After I notified Karen Kaplan of the LA Times that the headline of her article on the MTF survey inaccurately claimed that teen vaping "falls for the first time", the LA Times changed the title of the article
Teens are cutting back on drugs, alcohol, smoking and even electronic cigarettes, study finds

The Reuters article didn't even mention that teen vaping declined
Drinking, drug use largely down among U.S. teens in 2016

 

[sofarsogood]

Maybe kids satisfy their curiosity about clouds by vaping and don't get addicted and never need to try cigarettes because it has always been about the clouds...bro'.

 

[Kent C]

it has always been about the clouds..

And for 70%+ about no (or low) nicotine.....

 

[sofarsogood]

And for 70%+ about no (or low) nicotine.....

I went to the report and the impression I'm getting there is may be the kids are not aware about whether nic is present. I've been spending time in shops in the past few months. They are all slow. The customers are mostly 20's and 30's and they all seem to buy 3% (or less), and often seemed almost indifferent to whether there is nic at all.

The shops I'm visiting in SE michigan are too slow. May be there are too may shops in the area. May be the propaganda is making a difference. It's hard to believe the customers are buying juice mail order, much less DIY. A year ago things were much busier.

 

[skoony]

Maybe kids satisfy their curiosity about clouds by vaping and don't get addicted and never need to try cigarettes because it has always been about the clouds...bro'.

I have always maintained that the rise in popularity of E-cigarettes in the
underage groups was do to their popularity as party favors at underage
drinking parties. Now it seems to be fading. Why waste the money instead
of getting another bottle or two of Loopy vodka?
Mike

 

[Buster282]

Or gummy bear vodka..