3.7v vs 5v

[nevergonnaleavetn]

Has anybody that tried 5v or 6v found they actually prefer 3.7v?
Is the vapor on 5v or 6v hotter? Is it harsher than 3.7v?
Does 5v just create more vapor? Which voltage is best for flavor?
I would appreciate some opinions.
Thanks

 

[E-gazm E-liquid]

From what I have seen...the lower voltage is better for taste. The higher voltage is better for throat hit and vapor.

 

[chief druid]

i'm hoping .. more power equals less drag time ...

 

[nevergonnaleavetn]

Thanks Fittech

That actually was one of my questions chief druid (I just forgot to ask it),
does more power equal less drag time?

 

[Sun Vaporer]

I have tried them both as well as 6V. 3.7 direct actually does better IMO then a 5V USP passthough. As for 6V, it fires the flavor right out of the juice---------Sun

 

[surbitonPete]

I am thinking Fully charged batteries running at between 4 to 5 volts seem about the best.

 

[kinabaloo]

The higher voltage is 'achieving' one of two things to give that extra throat hit: vaporising more of the nicotine, or burning the deposit more; perhaps both. Increased vapor temperature perhaps too.

The flavor loss is either due to masking by increased nicotine/deposit burning, or the flavors get degraded before vaporising.

Better to have a mod with two atomizers at 4v IMO. This gives increased current without increased burning and with increased juice flow too. Without the increased juice flow, the chances are that there will be increased burning. But the deposit burning seems pretty much complete even with just a 3.7v battery. This whole area is not well understood.

There is little really to be gained from an increased voltage except a faster heat-up and that maybe vaporisation is incomplete without it in some cases. Reports of less deposit with higher voltages could be be because of a more complete vaporisation; or it could be that there is more 'burn-off' of the deposit during normal operation (eek).

Of course, temperature controlled attys is the way to go.

 

[Majestic]

I've got a manual Pass Through with a dual voltage of 4.6 & 5.2v. The 5.2v is great for producing lots of vapor with a minimum drag time. Great for taking a quick hit and for clearing the atty if it's starting to gurgle. Only thing at 5.2v it is a juice hog and the vapor tastes a bit watery to me. Kind of like sucking steam.

The 4.6v on the other hand produces a good amount of vapor compared to the 3.7v battery and has better flavor. As for throat hit I find it's slightly better at 5.2v, but rather opt for flavor instead. The throat hit can be tweaked with higher nic juice.

 

[nevergonnaleavetn]

Very interesting responses. Thanks

Anybody else have an opinion?

 

[breakfastchef]

There is a place for multiple voltage devices.

6 volts is ideal if you need some serious nicotine administration with analog-like throat hit. The flavor of the e-liquid is somewhat degraded. If you are a throat hit fan and want to reduce your nicotine, a high-voltage device can provide that extra sensation with juices of lower nic levels.

Around 5 volts is a very good compromise between throat hit and flavor. This is where I run most of my devices for many of the reasons posted by other forum members.

 

[Nuck]

Depends entirely on the model and almost definitely on the brand of each atomizer. For myself, the 801 sweet spot is 5.0-5.5v, the 901 is 4.5v and the 401 is 4.2v.

These are based on input voltage with batteries. The voltage under load and sag have to be accounted for as does personal preferences of taste vs hit.

 

[maskgeek]

I started with 3.7V but now I prefer a true 5V. Delivers a better throat hit which I need very much.
I wanted to know if there is a single AA size battery that is 4.5V or 5V. That would be an ideal power to use on a mod.

 

[Nuck]

I started with 3.7V but now I prefer a true 5V. Delivers a better throat hit which I need very much.
I wanted to know if there is a single AA size battery that is 4.5V or 5V. That would be an ideal power to use on a mod.

No such beast exists.

 

[TommyGunBC]

I find I use my zi moshi magnum more often for the throat hit , but my juicy box mod has better flavor but after vaping a 6v going back to 3.7v is a little lacking .

 

[Cancer]

I know i had debated with the Puresmoker Prodigy i preordered, this very topic. It was originally through battery configuration either a 3.7v or 6.0v vaporizer. As it got closer to production, the specs were changed to a regulated 5volt output. You can pick either config and i have been debating it ever since.The owner/designer stated that 3.7 was "underpowered, and 6volts was a juice hog as well as concerns for "atomizer homicide". He stated 5 volts was the sweetspot for the combined factor of juice usage,atomizer life,flavor and vapor. I will hopefully be doing a mod soon, and these opinions will help with that decision too.

 

[Nuck]

I know i had debated with the Puresmoker Prodigy i preordered, this very topic. It was originally through battery configuration either a 3.7v or 6.0v vaporizer. As it got closer to production, the specs were changed to a regulated 5volt output. You can pick either config and i have been debating it ever since.The owner/designer stated that 3.7 was "underpowered, and 6volts was a juice hog as well as concerns for "atomizer homicide". He stated 5 volts was the sweetspot for the combined factor of juice usage,atomizer life,flavor and vapor. I will hopefully be doing a mod soon, and these opinions will help with that decision too.

I've now banged off about 8 mods with differing levels of success and have decided that variable voltage is the only solution. There are just too many factors that determine the type of hit someone may desire at a given time.

Here are a few of them:

• Mood (relaxed longer pulls require lower voltage)
• Atomizer model (obvious differences)
• Atomizer brand (resistances vary)
• Juice Mix (PG or VG, VG at higher voltages has potential health risks)
• Juice Flavour (Some flavours 'burn' much easier than others)
• Personal preference (flavour vs throat hit)

The only downsides to doing voltage regulation is it increases costs a bit and increases size requirements just a bit. Ive been using one for about a week and a half now and it is now my standard 'go to' vaper even though its an ugly bat box mod.

I now have better VR chips and better quality pots and hopefully can do a real mod with the new stuff. Will report any issues but so far VR is hands down the way to go for controlled vaping.

 

[surbitonPete]

I agree with Nuck on Voltage regulation for the same reasons but the only other thing is that like Kinabaloo says a controlled and fixed 'temperature' may actually be the best way to go, there does seem to be some very strange chemical reactions that go on at different temperatures and it's something that could do with plenty of study. It could well be that for the best possible safety of vaping a fixed temperature might be the best.

 

[kinabaloo]

I agree with Nuck on Voltage regulation for the same reasons but the only other thing is that like Kinabaloo says a controlled and fixed 'temperature' may actually be the best way to go, there does seem to be some very strange chemical reactions that go on at different temperatures and it's something that could do with plenty of study. It could well be that for the best possible safety of vaping a fixed temperature might be the best.

Understand controlling the voltage but it is controlling the temperature that is the important thing. The coil would heat fast to chosen temp (could be adjustable) and stay there; no getting over-hot becuase the coil is running dry (so less/slower burning).

Even at 3.7v the deposit does become degraded to a black gunk. So perhaps it is the 'ashing'/'burn-off' of this gunk that adds the extra 'bite' to a higher voltage vapor; I don't think it is temperature of vapor and can't be increased vapor volume (except marginally perhaps)*.

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* I wonder if it is increased volume of vapor, because the coil gets so hot that it can vaporise juice from the metal wadding too?

 

[funkybozu]

I am thinking Fully charged batteries running at between 4 to 5 volts seem about the best.

this seems to be what im finding out with a 901 atty
a fully charged 3.6V at 4.2 gives me great vapor and taste. as soon as the voltage drops below 3.8V , the vapor is wimpy

 

[breakfastchef]

The only downsides to doing voltage regulation is it increases costs a bit and increases size requirements just a bit. Ive been using one for about a week and a half now and it is now my standard 'go to' vaper even though its an ugly bat box mod.

I now have better VR chips and better quality pots and hopefully can do a real mod with the new stuff. Will report any issues but so far VR is hands down the way to go for controlled vaping.

Have you attained variable voltage with constant current? If so, at what current are you running your mod.

I completely agree that advanced vapers would love a variable voltage/constant current device for all the reasons discussed in this thread.