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  1. Xcighippy

    Xcighippy Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    This question may have an obvious answer or has been answered a hundred times before. How is it that as soon as any company comes out with a new mod, rba, vv device etc. A clone of that product instantly appears? Some times there is subtle changes and that I can understand. The exact copies, isn't that called counterfeit?
    I own many "clone's" and don't have a problem with it. I just was wondering how they get away with it, or are they not getting away with anything?
    Also, how come no one ever "cloned" the Provari?
     
  2. bcalvanese

    bcalvanese Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Uh Oh... the "P" word...:)
     
  3. JBR3AK

    JBR3AK Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    I'd say mainly, the majority of tanks, accessories (etc) and quite a few mods come from china. Copyright and patent laws over there are quite loose. As for the clones appearing, if it's hot, and it sells, China's got people ready to make it and make it cheaper. As far as the provari goes, china tried to make competition to it with the zmax and other mods. Sure it's cheaper, but it's quality (as far as I know) doesn't compare to the provari.not to sound biased, but I've owned 2 Vamo's and a $100 lavatube knockoff from china. All failed it 6 months or less. My provari is still kicking.


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  4. crxess

    crxess ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I own no counterfeits.
    I do own 10 Replicas - 5 mods, 4 RBA, 1RDA > These are all(supposedly) 1:1 and all work incredibly well.

    I don't think I have seen any manufacturer try Cloning the (P)word. Yes, there are similar tube shapes, but seriously, they are al bassed on the 18xxx series batteries. All need room for the controller chips and all support 510 connections. Kind of a common theme in the Vaping community.

    Also realize, often there is someone behind the manufacturer saying Can you make me 10k of this? Then the ball starts rolling.
    For many of us it is simpler to blame the Mod makers than the Money makers that see the market potential.
     
  5. Topacka

    Topacka Super Member ECF Veteran

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    I was reading somewhere about designers selling their designs to the Chinese right before their mods come out to increase demand for their mod because it's "authentic".

    Can't remember where I read it...
     
  6. Vermonster13

    Vermonster13 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Truth is it's easier to steal someone else's design than to be an original. If so many modders hadn't shared their work, most would be stuck with cigalikes and egos.
     
  7. JBR3AK

    JBR3AK Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    I do remember reading somewhere lavatubes design was exclusively there's, but sold their patent bringing Vamo's and all alike.


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  8. jizzles

    jizzles Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    The reason they don't clone it is because the materials and build quality isn't there and QC will not either. Why clone a product when it won't sell as fast or as cheap. They've got their own vv/vw mods that work well. They've got their own dna30 coming soon and the clones of mech mods and rda/rbas are easier to clone since it's all machining.

    How they clone so fast? Well it's all theories from there. Either way, it's not too hard to clone something that most machines are capable of doing.


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