I've heard of several having VG allergies, but there are all kinds of flavors - any one of which you might be allergic to. Take one of the carts you were going to throw away and vape some 100 % VG - no flavor - no nic - and see what happens. That would at least help you to narrow things down. If you have no reaction to the 100% VG, you'll know to look elsewhere. I'm sorry to hear about folks having problems.
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I've heard of several having VG allergies, but there are all kinds of flavors - any one of which you might be allergic to. Take one of the carts you were going to throw away and vape some 100 % VG - no flavor - no nic - and see what happens. That would at least help you to narrow things down. If you have no reaction to the 100% VG, you'll know to look elsewhere. I'm sorry to hear about folks having problems.
I've gone against my principles and got some loratadine (allergy relief) and aceaminophen (cold & flu relief) medicines this morning and it's sped up my recovery considerably 
I'm vaping my 90% PG just fine now (well, relatively). As with analogs when I had a bad cold or flu smoking was so nasty it was near unbearable, I'm sure many of you can sympathize with that one. It's very interesting to discover the exact same sensation with vaping 
Anyway we'll see if it sticks. Now, once I do recover I have some unflavored PG on order I should be receiving in a few days I'll play around with in my current cartos. I have absolutely no intention on ordering a bottle of VG though, the thought makes me toenails curl back.
I'm vaping my 90% PG just fine now (well, relatively). As with analogs when I had a bad cold or flu smoking was so nasty it was near unbearable, I'm sure many of you can sympathize with that one. It's very interesting to discover the exact same sensation with vaping Anyway we'll see if it sticks. Now, once I do recover I have some unflavored PG on order I should be receiving in a few days I'll play around with in my current cartos. I have absolutely no intention on ordering a bottle of VG though, the thought makes me toenails curl back.
You may need a more pure form of VG, where did you get the stuff causing the issue? Are you using cartridges with filler in it, or free juice like the ce2 cartos or the tank type egos? If you are using filler cartos, are you vaping them dry and not realizing it, and inhaling that burnt filler material? That stuff DOES burn, and I can't imagine that being healthy at ALL to inhale. IT was tearing up one of my barely used cartos to see big burn holes in the filler material that made me switch to CE2's
I would also ask after your juice, is it DIY or bought from a vendor ready to go? Is it a prefilled cart (in packages) that prolly came from China, or a juice that you fill your carts or cartos' with?
I got the VG that is approved for use in the European Union, as well as usp. it's kosher too, so you can vape during passover (or something crazy like that)
My son is dreadfully allergic to sulfites. Found out after drinking a red wine puts him in the hospital with migraines that would not respond to the normal meds they give in the ER for migraines. It took days for it to wear off, too. Since the glycerin is vegetable based (though mostly water), and breaks down into a simple sugar like wines, yes, I think it makes sense to see it containing sulfites.
For god's sakes though....don't go back to cigarettes! An allergy is one thing, knowingly putting something in your body that is designed to kill you is another. Let's come up with another method, eh?
I would also ask after your juice, is it DIY or bought from a vendor ready to go? Is it a prefilled cart (in packages) that prolly came from China, or a juice that you fill your carts or cartos' with?
I got the VG that is approved for use in the European Union, as well as usp. it's kosher too, so you can vape during passover (or something crazy like that
)My son is dreadfully allergic to sulfites. Found out after drinking a red wine puts him in the hospital with migraines that would not respond to the normal meds they give in the ER for migraines. It took days for it to wear off, too. Since the glycerin is vegetable based (though mostly water), and breaks down into a simple sugar like wines, yes, I think it makes sense to see it containing sulfites.
For god's sakes though....don't go back to cigarettes! An allergy is one thing, knowingly putting something in your body that is designed to kill you is another. Let's come up with another method, eh?
Darth,
I will point out, you are into the phase of quit that your body begins to detox all that krap and chemicals big tobacco has been stuffing into your body without your permission for all those years. I went through the same exact thing, and as it turns out, almost a year later, I am continuing to detox and getting more junk and gunk out of my lungs now that the cillia have regrown, and are working. I am a mucus filled hot mess right now! LOL
Detox is a NASTY thing to go through. You feel a million times worse than you ever have while your body begins the fight to rid itself of all that evil mess. It goes into overdrive and will exhaust itself while it does it. I know I felt like a monster truck rolled over me, then backed up and did it again for good measure.
Help your body out. Drink LOTS of fluids. Not cokes and sodas or gatorade, but as pure a water as you can get (I would do crystal lights in water, the ones with antioxidants and vitamins and such) Give it really good foods, green stuffs, and help it out with some beneficial bacterias like in yogurt, or pick up a bottle of PB8 and take that instead. Get rest! relax and let your body work. No marathons, but gentle exercising like walking or yoga or stretching. Try swimming. Do some meditation.
Detox does PASS!!! I felt a million times better than I had in 20 years after that initial 8 weeks, and felt my recovery continue to improve my health and wellbeing as the months rolled along. Stick with it. you can do it.
I will point out, you are into the phase of quit that your body begins to detox all that krap and chemicals big tobacco has been stuffing into your body without your permission for all those years. I went through the same exact thing, and as it turns out, almost a year later, I am continuing to detox and getting more junk and gunk out of my lungs now that the cillia have regrown, and are working. I am a mucus filled hot mess right now! LOL
Detox is a NASTY thing to go through. You feel a million times worse than you ever have while your body begins the fight to rid itself of all that evil mess. It goes into overdrive and will exhaust itself while it does it. I know I felt like a monster truck rolled over me, then backed up and did it again for good measure.
Help your body out. Drink LOTS of fluids. Not cokes and sodas or gatorade, but as pure a water as you can get (I would do crystal lights in water, the ones with antioxidants and vitamins and such) Give it really good foods, green stuffs, and help it out with some beneficial bacterias like in yogurt, or pick up a bottle of PB8 and take that instead. Get rest! relax and let your body work. No marathons, but gentle exercising like walking or yoga or stretching. Try swimming. Do some meditation.
Detox does PASS!!! I felt a million times better than I had in 20 years after that initial 8 weeks, and felt my recovery continue to improve my health and wellbeing as the months rolled along. Stick with it. you can do it.
I use the Echo which has a filler and bottom loading horizontal atty. The suspected offending juice was Astro Bacco, but this is not certain. The only difference (and I been trying dozens of juices) was this one had far more VG than anything I've done previous. My all day vape is a blend I mix myself from other liquids I've ordered. I am not vaping the cartos dry, although there may be an issue with them not saturating properly -- I have had my share of issues with them burning ever since I started using the echo, but that is not anything new at this point. In fact the past week if anything has been the least problematic of my carto filler burning issues. I have several posts with pictures in the Echo Thread. In fact anything else you need to know I pretty well describe and explain there about my adventures in vaping.
Also it should be noted that I was smoke free for almost 3 years, started smoking black & milds for about 3 weeks, then went to vaping for about 2 months now. I've no desireto go back, for many reasons
Also it should be noted that I was smoke free for almost 3 years, started smoking black & milds for about 3 weeks, then went to vaping for about 2 months now. I've no desireto go back, for many reasons
Now that was something I thought of while reading this thread (today for the first time). Some months ago I got an e-mail from a girl having similar symptoms. After some days we were convinced that this is a case of nickel allergy. This was confirmed by doctor's tests some days later. Her reactions were very strong. Unfortunately, she had to quit vaping, went back to analogs.
BTW, as far as I know VG labeled as USP (or in Europe PhEur) doesn't contain sulfites. Just glycerine and deionized water (approx 14%).
Small update:
I've tried other higher VG mixes, and even 50/50 start to make me ill, although it's better than the 30/70 and higher.
I took that Astro Bacco 24mg 30/70 and mixed 3ml of it with 1ml of vodka (80 proof) and 1ml of 100mg PG. If my figurin' is correct I got 5ml of 34mg at 42% VG. So far, it's treating me much better!
I've tried other higher VG mixes, and even 50/50 start to make me ill, although it's better than the 30/70 and higher.
I took that Astro Bacco 24mg 30/70 and mixed 3ml of it with 1ml of vodka (80 proof) and 1ml of 100mg PG. If my figurin' is correct I got 5ml of 34mg at 42% VG. So far, it's treating me much better!
Well it was mighty thick to start with. It's about no different than the 100% PG I have, even though it still is technically 42% VG. Were it a lower mg to start with I coulda used more of my PG nicotine and less vodka, but I'm pleased with the results.
Here's how I figured it out, I may be wrong admittedly as I did this late into the night:
the amounts I used are expressed as x, y, and v. my goal was to hit 36mg
x = the PG nic juice at 100mg
y = astro bacco at 24mg
v = vodka
100x + 24y
-------------- = 36(mg)
x + y + v
so 100x + 24y = 36x + 36y + 36v
I only had 3ml of astro bacco, made things simpler by just solving for x and v (where x+v =2 for 5ml total)
100x + 72 = 36x + 108 + 36v
which is 64x = 36 + 36v
so
9 + 9v
---------- = x
16
roughly x=1 and v=1
Here's how I figured it out, I may be wrong admittedly as I did this late into the night:
the amounts I used are expressed as x, y, and v. my goal was to hit 36mg
x = the PG nic juice at 100mg
y = astro bacco at 24mg
v = vodka
100x + 24y
-------------- = 36(mg)
x + y + v
so 100x + 24y = 36x + 36y + 36v
I only had 3ml of astro bacco, made things simpler by just solving for x and v (where x+v =2 for 5ml total)
100x + 72 = 36x + 108 + 36v
which is 64x = 36 + 36v
so
9 + 9v
---------- = x
16
roughly x=1 and v=1
Hello DarthVper,
I really don't have a clue what you did or what you ended up with, but you evidently like it. <grin>
I mix all of my own juice, and I enjoy using this freeware juice calculator that sure does end a lot of confusion:
eJuice Me Up - e-Juice e-Liquid Recipe Calculator
I really don't have a clue what you did or what you ended up with, but you evidently like it. <grin>
I mix all of my own juice, and I enjoy using this freeware juice calculator that sure does end a lot of confusion:
eJuice Me Up - e-Juice e-Liquid Recipe Calculator
Darth, yellow and/or green mucus typically means that you've developed an infection of some sort, either viral or bacterial. For me personally it always heralded a nice case of sinusitis/bronchitis.
Btw, I used to live on the other side of the tunnel from you in Hampton. I do miss the area, but not the traffic.
Edit: my apologies, ECF was being goofy and I missed a page of the conversation. Hope you get the whole thing figured out.
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Hi....I haven't been around in ages because I went back to smoking cigarettes while I tried to sort out what was going on with me and vaping and I felt completely out of the loop as far as vaping goes.
I wish I hadn't gone back to the cigarettes because it's been a MUCH tougher challenge getting off them this time.
I AM happy to say though that vaping seems to be going ok with me now that I have switched to 100% PG. I feel SO much better with it.
Vaping VG, along with the face flushing and rash also caused WAY more dehydration for some reason and affected my stomach also.
Someone mentioned this.... "Since the glycerin is vegetable based (though mostly water), and breaks down into a simple sugar like wines, yes, I think it makes sense to see it containing sulfites."
While I'm not sure of whether or not there definitely ARE sulphites in VG or what exactly in it I was being affected by I do know this.
I have had issues with very high triglycerides in the past and it seems that after vaping with VG my triglycerides are once again very high. (Quite disappointing to me because I worked SO hard to get them down as they were at a level that was looking like I might need medication - some familial thing apparently.)
My doctor actually mentioned something to me about VG converting into sugar so that was interesting to me and again seeing someone here mention the same thing.
So it's something for people to keep in mind particularly if you are prone to triglyceride problems.
I wish I hadn't gone back to the cigarettes because it's been a MUCH tougher challenge getting off them this time.
I AM happy to say though that vaping seems to be going ok with me now that I have switched to 100% PG. I feel SO much better with it.
Vaping VG, along with the face flushing and rash also caused WAY more dehydration for some reason and affected my stomach also.
Someone mentioned this.... "Since the glycerin is vegetable based (though mostly water), and breaks down into a simple sugar like wines, yes, I think it makes sense to see it containing sulfites."
While I'm not sure of whether or not there definitely ARE sulphites in VG or what exactly in it I was being affected by I do know this.
I have had issues with very high triglycerides in the past and it seems that after vaping with VG my triglycerides are once again very high. (Quite disappointing to me because I worked SO hard to get them down as they were at a level that was looking like I might need medication - some familial thing apparently.)
My doctor actually mentioned something to me about VG converting into sugar so that was interesting to me and again seeing someone here mention the same thing.
So it's something for people to keep in mind particularly if you are prone to triglyceride problems.
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