Any brands that do pre-mixed concentrates?

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If you order say, 1 Dram (3.7mL) of flavoring, you can just do some quick math and figure out what you gotta add. If you wanted 10% flavoring, your final batch will be 37mL. If you have 100mg nic base and want a strength of 24mg, you'd add 8.88mL. That leaves a remainder of 24.42mL, and depending on what you want for a PG/VG ratio, you'll create it w/ the appropriate amount of each, after which point you'd be done.
 

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Mom and Pop Vapour Shop sell all their flavours as DIY concentrates.

Yeah, their "Concentrated Flavor".. that's what I'm talking about... :)


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Do you like our flavors but want a little extra or you typically mix your own? Or are you curious about DIY but not sure you can mix flavors that will taste good? This is your solution. All our flavors are now for sale in concentrated form. This 10ml bottle of concentrate will make five 10ml bottles of e-liquid at 20% flavor.

These are not just re-bottled concentrate from other companies, they are our own hand-made recipes.
 

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Yeah, their "Concentrated Flavor".. that's what I'm talking about... :)


Product Description

Do you like our flavors but want a little extra or you typically mix your own? Or are you curious about DIY but not sure you can mix flavors that will taste good? This is your solution. All our flavors are now for sale in concentrated form. This 10ml bottle of concentrate will make five 10ml bottles of e-liquid at 20% flavor.

These are not just re-bottled concentrate from other companies, they are our own hand-made recipes.

I have never tried them ... however, M&P has a great reputation ... and I'm gonna place an order one day.

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If you order say, 1 Dram (3.7mL) of flavoring, you can just do some quick math and figure out what you gotta add. If you wanted 10% flavoring, your final batch will be 37mL. If you have 100mg nic base and want a strength of 24mg, you'd add 8.88mL. That leaves a remainder of 24.42mL, and depending on what you want for a PG/VG ratio, you'll create it w/ the appropriate amount of each, after which point you'd be done.

Nah, I know it's fairly easy.

Just looking for the lazy way out. Why bother trying to replicate your favorite juice by trial & error, when you can just buy the concentrate & dilute it yourself? :D
 

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I just read the product description where it recommended 20% flavoring, that's like the stuff I got from Vapor Shots for my 1st DIY order. I spent $42 and got eleven 10mL bottles of flavoring, 120mL of 60mg nic / PG base, 250mL of PG, and 120mL of VG. I've made 6 batches now, and I've got a nice quick little system going. I have three 5mL oral syringes, so I have one for each base ingredient which is 3 quick measurements into a small 20mL glass vial I have. And then a quick needle syringe of a flavoring squirted in, cap and shake it like crazy, and I'm vaping a new flavor less than 5mins after conceiving it. It's great and easy!
 

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I just read the product description where it recommended 20% flavoring, that's like the stuff I got from Vapor Shots for my 1st DIY order. I spent $42 and got eleven 10mL bottles of flavoring, 120mL of 60mg nic / PG base, 250mL of PG, and 120mL of VG. I've made 6 batches now, and I've got a nice quick little system going. I have three 5mL oral syringes, so I have one for each base ingredient which is 3 quick measurements into a small 20mL glass vial I have. And then a quick needle syringe of a flavoring squirted in, cap and shake it like crazy, and I'm vaping a new flavor less than 5mins after conceiving it. It's great and easy!

There are several posts/threads around of DIYers that have used M&P flavors at less than 20% - it seems a goodly amount of folks have easily gotten away with 15%, and some even less.
 

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Yea I'm still a little iffy on how much flavor is really necessary. It seemed like from everything I've read, 10% was common, but my vendor recommended 20% on their website saying their natural flavors were lighter than others. I overdid the flavoring on my 1st batch at ~25%, but it was blueberry/vanilla which I love, and I thought it came out great to my tastes. My next DIY order I plan on getting some other brands of flavoring like Lorann or TFA, and w/ those I'm not gonna start so high. I do like a good amount of flavor tho so if they're weak, I'll just add drops afterwards.
 

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There are several posts/threads around of DIYers that have used M&P flavors at less than 20% - it seems a goodly amount of folks have easily gotten away with 15%, and some even less.

20% does sound a little high.

Then again, that number might also help M&P generate a little more revenue.. ;)


I dunno, I'm still just scoping things out first, seeing what's out there. I might not even go down that pre-mixed recipe concentrate road.

Just seeing if it's possible to avoid the "2% this, with 4.5% that.. then add 6% of this & 1% of that" kind of thing if I wanted a more complex flavor.


Who knows, maybe when I actually start doing DIY, I'll get way more into it.. :banana:
 

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Want2Vape also sells DIY concentrates of their regular flavors, which they suggest mixing at 20%. I am vaping Morley right now, and it is absolutely delicious! E Liquid Flavoring Concentrates

Mt. Baker Vapor also has a wide variety of flavorings, including some of their signature blends. Electronic Cigarette flavors, E cigarette flavors, and e flavoring.

As for the Mom & Pop's flavors being mixed, 20% works just great for me. I have Tobacco Haze, Praze, and Dolce, and they all work well at the suggested strength. Sure, the price for 10ml of M&P flavor is a little higher than what you would pay for a single Hangsen, Capella, TFA, LA, or FlavourArt flavor, but if you like the juice, then paying that little extra for taking all the guess work out of cloning it is well worth it for me. I don't mind paying $0.20 per ml when the same vendor is charging twice that for finished juices, and I can freely customize my pg/vg ratios and nic to exactly what I want.

Rumor has it that NiteLiteVapor will be introducing flavor concentrates in the near future as well.
 

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I have always thought this was a Fantastic Selling Point.

And something I have be Surprised that Other Vendors have not All gone to.

If the ever-looming regulations ever actually take effect, juice vendors won't have a choice in the matter, and they will be relegated to selling nic free juices and flavorings.

Honestly, if a vendor does NOT sell concentrated flavorings at this point, they are already behind the times. There are enough DIYers who would be happy to buy premade flavorings that are no muss, no fuss. There will always be an eternal supply of vapers who just aren't comfortable or don't have the time to DIY, but the vendors who don't sell DIY flavor concentrates are only hurting themselves by cutting off an ever growing market segment. Considering how infinitely easier it is to mix up a batch of flavoring than it is to mix individual bottles of juice with different nic levels, pg/vg ratios, and even adding flavor shots, it would seem to be a no-brainer, at least to me. Then again, what do I know?
 

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When the ever-looming regulations ever actually take effect, juice vendors won't have a choice in the matter, and they will be relegated to selling nic free juices and flavorings.

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I Fixed that for You.

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And I agree. That is, If your Joe-Average Retailer is Allowed to Sell Nicotine in Liquid Form.
 
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