Anyone else notice the lack of Joyetech products on major websites?

Discussion in 'General Vaping Discussion' started by Rocketpunk, Oct 25, 2013.

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  1. Rocketpunk

    Rocketpunk Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Discount Vapers, Madvapes, even Mount Baker Vapor have all seriously reduced their stock of "genuine" Joyetech merch. This is obviously because of their 33% price hike, all across the board. But strangely, I don't see a lot of posters here mentioning it. Is there a deeper discussion going on in a subforum somewhere?

    There's a reason you're seeing so many Smoktech and Innokin products on the market.

    Interesting article I found while doing research. It's older, but it's still interesting.

    Joyetech - They Aren't the E-Cigarette Manufacturer You Think They Are! | E-Cig Express Blog
     
  2. crxess

    crxess ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Actually I would have thought their price hike may have had to do more with Status/image than anything. Maybe they forget we expect different from China.
    What I have noticed more than a reduction is an expansion of available product offerings. Joyetech only has so much to offer so their little corner of the shelf is becoming obscured.
    A Vender carrying a Hugh inventory invested in one product line could find themselves in financial trouble in short order. Today diversification and flexibility is more important than ever. Popular product/quick turn/minimal excess inventory.
     
  3. Ref Minor

    Ref Minor Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I don't think people care about them, people have just shrugged and moved on. There are many alternatives to Joye products. Take the Twist, you can get an iTaste VV, a Spinner or a clone to cover all the price points. I think Joye have shot themselves in the foot with their price hike. I would have got an eRoll for $42, but for $70, not a chance.

    Joye have a reputation for decently made kit but I don't think it is now worth the premium they are asking, there are people like Innokin providing the same quality at more reasonable prices.
     
  4. volume control

    volume control Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I use ego and 510 official joyetech products which i order from wordupecig and litecigusa. I havent been vaping all that long but they have never been cheapest or available at tons of sites in my time
     
  5. deanthemachine

    deanthemachine Super Member ECF Veteran

    Great read! Crazy if true
     
  6. danca90

    danca90 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    The price of the evic is ridiculous. I understand you can plug it in to your computer, but why?
     
  7. Thrasher

    Thrasher Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Joytech shot themselves in the foot with a required MSRP/pricefixing and a large minimum order.

    as for the article? i stated at the time of release I thought it was funny he had to "research" information thats offered freely on Ovale's website for everyone to see. they have never hid this information and have openly talked about it over the past few years. yet a few people act like its some kind of conspiracy.
     
  8. Rocketpunk

    Rocketpunk Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    See, though, before this article I had no idea that Ovale and the other company were the original creators. I remember hearing Ovale on Busardo's reviews but it never clicked until now.
     
  9. danca90

    danca90 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Has anyone tried their juice? The price seems steep for what I expect is dekang.
     
  10. Thrasher

    Thrasher Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I know i didnt either at first, but then like with the evic, i started noticing Ovale releases something then suddenly a few months later its a joy branded product, it was during the evic release i went to ovale and dug around, and they take great pride in the fact they are all working together to bring better products to the market and it works. ovale doesnt have to invest in manufacturing and joy doesnt have to invest in R&D just sit and wait for the next cool thing.

    to be fair they don't exactly brag about it but at the same time they never tried to hide it either, so i am amused at these people who had to dig, and talk to high level people for information lol

    imagine the phone call at ovale -hello? yea i heard that bla bla bla,--um yes we do that. bye "click"

    Who was that? - dunno this guy is doing some kind of article on us. sounded like some conspiracy nut

    Doesnt he know thats posted on the website? - guess not haha.
     
  11. Iffy

    Iffy Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    More like a double tap to center mass and then a followup head shot!

    I used to be an avid fan... now, not so much...
     
  12. Penn

    Penn Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Is this price increase about to happen or are the prices I've been seeing with the increase?

    I know when I started I wanted cheap so I could determine if I was going to stick with it. Joye was too much for that. Once I decided I was going to stick with it I went to Innokin.
     
  13. Thrasher

    Thrasher Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I dont know joys prices lately but i do know several people now who bought the kamry twist knockoffs (on FT and others) and they say they work just as well as the real twists, (paint is a little thin though)
     
  14. Baditude

    Baditude ECF Guru ECF Veteran

    I have never owned a Joytech Twist or a Vision Spinner, but I have held and just generally inspected both in a B & M. The Spinner seemed like the better battery if I were to purchase one.

    Innokin seems to be the current leader in e-cig product quality and variety of late, both with battery devices and clearomizers. Kanger a close second with both. I think Joytech's former greedy practices are starting to catch up with them and that they can no longer rely on their pseudo reputation as one of the premier name brands from China. It's a dog eat dog world in China, and I think Joytech has lost their tail. Bad karma has caught up to them.
     
  15. Ref Minor

    Ref Minor Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    The first batch of Twist clones at FT weren't as good a Joye ones (but ok for the price), the more recent batches were a higher quality, say 90% of a Joye for 50% of the price.
     
  16. Ref Minor

    Ref Minor Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    It hit the fast moving Chinese sites a month or two back. The smaller US and EU sites and B&Ms may have sold old stock for longer. The ERoll at FT went from 42$ to 71$ overnight, the EVic from $70 to $100.

    One Chinese site posted a notice saying they would sell their Joye stock then switch to stocking the Ego clones due to the rise.
     
  17. Racehorse

    Racehorse Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Actually, they haven't.

    Many of us only order Joyetech egos.....and I can attest to the quality of both their batts and even their chargers.

    Their battery has some of the best protecton cirucuitry available. You will NOT get that in a clone.

    The other thing is that they support their vendor with good warranty........which means the vendor can pass that along to their customers (you).

    I have never had a joyetech go belly up yet....18 months on my Joyetech Twists. Still going strong.

    See above. And finish on mine are still real nice. :)

    I don't trust the cheap fastech ones...already had one blow up on the charger. I had another "clone" ego that wouldn't shut off....ever. Had to toss it outside, didn't trust ever putting onto the charger again.

    Loved the eRoll, too. Smart, classy, fun and so practical for those who love mini cigs.

    I think they are very innovative, adn many have copied from them. But the protection circuitry, in their egos....that is patented. Its better than the others, I can attest to that.
     
  18. Thrasher

    Thrasher Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    for a 15 dollar price difference I would hope so. lol not knocking them as it's been about a year since i used an ego battery (25 bucks will get me 4 18650's)
     
  19. EvilZoe

    EvilZoe Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I use my Spinners for dripping to test my flavors.
     
  20. Uma

    Uma Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I remember being glued to the Janty sub forum and Mik's creative muse. We were all pumped up over that original design, called the eGo. We were ecstatic! Finally, an ecig that would last a nice 6 hours, plus had a 6 month warranty. The first batches even held the logo. The price was scary high for the kit, 60 bucks plus some for extra genuine Joye 510 attys and Janty's awesome RY4 juice, but we splurged and never regretted it. Soon the Riva clones came ou at half the price and Janty began losing heart and fell behind. But they still have their online stores with some nice things, like that special refill thingamajig. This thread really brought back memories. The Janty eGo was my first kit and Janty was my first love. Those were the good old days. I wish the ones I'm google-eyed over today were only $60 bucks! So does my poor sometimes patient hubby lol.
     
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