Are You Vapers or Mice?

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  1. Art-n-Cate

    Art-n-Cate Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Everyone who wants to retain the right to vape needs to do this. Or something like it. Make yourself heard. Why? For one, I've heard that 7-11 (at least in Vegas) will start carrying starter kits in September. This is bound to make news. We need a positive spin on the whole subject - beginning now - before tobacco lobbyists, non-smokers and other busybodies step up to the national microphone and launch a smear campaign. There's nothing the mass market media loves more than frothing nay-sayers. Trust me here; I've worked in the industry since the early 80's. Our bandwagon needs to be already rollin' and loaded with good solid facts, good testimony, goodwill and happy faces when the subject is laid before public. Let the 'other side' foam at the mouth and look like scary, rabid beasts...

    The one remark I hear most from the uninformed is: "Aren't those illegal (or banned)?" Why? Because bad news travels way faster than good news does. The FDA sure didn't hold a press conference to say they lifted the ban, now did they?

    How many of you got sick and tired of being hassled when you smoked analogs? Did you do anything as you watched the number of smoking areas dwindle? Probably not. Why not? Because you really didn't have a leg to stand on what with the second-hand smoke uproar.

    But NOW you have tens of thousands of strong legs to help you stand tall.

    We aren't harming anyone else anymore. We've stopped killing ourselves - like I think the FDA really gives a poop anyway - stopped overflowing ashtrays and grounded butts and all the other reasons non-smokers brought down their wrath upon us.

    In a country that stands for personal freedom, how many of those do we really have left? Me thinks old Ben Franklin would've been the father of mod-makers. No doubt Jefferson would've been the E-Juice King. They were smart men; visionaries. I'm sure the concept would've been thought brilliant.

    We were steamrolled as smokers; forced to feel like the Great Unwashed.

    As vapers, we could be vaporized.

    Because, as yet, we don't have the presence; we just plain don't have the numbers to be a reckoning force. We must make ourselves seen and heard.

    For those of you embarrassed to vape in public, I hear you. It's been a hard hurdle for me to jump as well BUT I came to the astounding realization that public vaping is the one big thing that I - and you, as Vape Ambassadors, can do to help insure that we can continue to have the right to do so. And it feels so darn to good to politely fly in the face of non-smokers. :2cool: (I'll illuminate more on overcoming the apprehension and what I do in another post.)

    I have never been politically active because, as a journalist, it was my job to be objective - to look at both sides without judgement but there comes a time in life when you have to draw the proverbial line in the sand. Ask yourself: "Am I a man or a mouse? Do I hide in my corner and hope someone else will fight my battle for me?"

    How's that been working out for ya?

    So I say to The Man: leave me to vape in peace, health and harmony. And I signed in at the above link and said so. I tell people what it is and why I do it. I'm not militant about it, although sure, at times I'd like to be - especially when a woman with a butt the size of Texas (I only mention this because it was so big that I had to scoot all the way to the left side of my stool to keep it from touching me. Yuck!) sits down next to me in a smoking casino, starts coughing and frantically waving away my 'smoke' before calling a floor attendant to ask ME to move. The floor attendant asked me where she could get one. :laugh: It never occurred to me to complain about butt harassment.


    Time to draw your line, Vapers.

    I'd rather fight than switch...
     
  2. o4_srt

    o4_srt Super Member ECF Veteran

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    just a heads up, you didn't vote. to the left of the headline, there is a VOTE button. Make sure to cast your votes, as they are what move this topic up the list.

    Comments don't move the topic, they just add to it. The votes are what does the job.
     
  3. Art-n-Cate

    Art-n-Cate Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Boy, do I feel like a dope...
    So if you just posted comments w/o pushing the vote box in the upper left hand corner, you didn't actually vote.
    Thanks for the head's up, 04!
     
  4. mistinthewoods

    mistinthewoods Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    Almost missed that myself. :blush: Good thing to point out.
     
  5. DemonCowboy

    DemonCowboy Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    actually, if u look through a fair few ppl forgot to vote...
     
  6. Redhook

    Redhook Full Member

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    Put my vote in.
     
  7. socal

    socal Full Member

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    JUST TO LET EVERYONE KNOW:

    you can type in a random email address, vote, log out...and repeat with a different random email. No password is required...Now I'm not encouraging cheating, just letting everyone know... One could easily throw out 50 votes in about 5 minutes...

    Takes less then 30 seconds to actually vote + leave a comment. Everyone should do this.
     
  8. Shadow Ryder

    Shadow Ryder Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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  9. Professional Vampire

    Professional Vampire Full Member

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    I voted. Hope it does some good.
     
  10. BetterBob

    BetterBob Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    If i were a mouse, i would totally ride a little motorcycle.
     
  11. TWolf

    TWolf Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    Gave my 3 votes!
     
  12. cifan

    cifan Moved On

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    bang bang, it's a long long journey
     
  13. MoonRose

    MoonRose Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    We are now on page 1 of the "Top Topics" albeit at the bottom of the page. We are second on the "Hot Topics" page. We have 525 votes and 110 comments and ranked 20th.

    Let's keep the momentum up people. Our lives depend on our speaking out and doing everything in our power to keep the FDA from banning our e-cigs. Vote and post your comments about how e-cigs have helped you. If you don't fight for your right to vape then you don't have the right to complain if the FDA bans e-cigs.
     
  14. fourmedallions

    fourmedallions Full Member

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    Yep - I had to go back and vote lol
     
  15. Meggalette

    Meggalette Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I put my votes in!
     
  16. MoonRose

    MoonRose Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Our topic is now ranked 18th with 632 votes and 122 comments. That's about 100 comments more than any other topic there.

    If we want to stand a snowballs chance in **** of protecting our right to keep our e-cigs and prevent the FDA from banning them, everyone has got to vote. So get in there and vote, post you comment, get your family and friends to vote and post comments as well. Let's make everyone aware of just how stupid the FDA is acting by wanting to ban something that is using nothing but ingrediants that they themselves have deemed as safe. Show the world that the FDA and their money buddies aren't really worried or concerned about our health, but about all the money they rake in if people continue to smoke analog cigarettes.

    I refuse to let the FDA sign my death warrant by banning e-cigs.
     
  17. hova

    hova Super Member ECF Veteran

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    i dont see any vote button , but my eye sight and firewall could be working against me.


    i have vaped in public since i got my ecig. i used to get looks from people like i was smoking in the stores , but no one ever said a word. i guess the stores know whats up , and that they cant really do anything but ask me not to , but no one ever has.

    im sort of an anti-establishment , and anti-authority , so i tried my hardest to get someone to say something to me , but no one ever did , unless it was the odd person saying " hey , is that one of those electronic cigarettes? how do they burn with no lighter?" most people think theres a real cigarette in there somewhere and that its just like an uber-filter...
     
  18. MoonRose

    MoonRose Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    The vote button is located in the top left hand corner of the page right under the number of votes being shown.
     
  19. hova

    hova Super Member ECF Veteran

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    i saw it , and i voted 3 times... my count was 664,665,and yes , 666...


    :evil::evil::evil::evil::evil::evil::evil::evil:
    yay!!!
     
  20. MoonRose

    MoonRose Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    ROFL ... I say those are lucky numbers, don't care what anyone else says about it. :p
     
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