Attempt # 26--My quest to build one working coil

[CloudZ]

That makes me feel great.

I just tried to build a horizontal coil. I couldn't get it attached to the posts without wrecking it.

Well, I get the feeling that is pretty standard for most... to get it on the second or third try. Since you've tried 27+ times, I assume you have pretty good patience, but you may have poor manual dexterity. I mean absolutely no offense at all by this, but its really not very difficult to attach the coil legs without destroying the coil once you've watched a few videos of others doing it. You just carefully wrap the wire halfway around the screw, hold it in place with one hand and tighten down the screw with a small screwdriver with the other hand. Some folks just have shaky un-coordinated fingers which makes things like threading a needle very difficult. If this is not you, and you feel like you have just as steady hands as the next person, I suggest you watch a bunch of rebuilding tutorial videos, keep calm, go slow, and keep trying. Honestly, if the coil looks good, it should fire just fine.

Oh yeah, and skip the chimney coil. They are definitely more advanced and tricky to get working properly (including wicking). The kayfun is meant to be built horizontal.

Before you go back to smokes, have you tried something that doesn't require rebuilding like a carto tank or clearomizer?

 

[crxess]

I'm just wondering WHY you decided to jump on a Vertical coil before learning the Basics of coil building???????
Already suggested you STOP using RIP as your guide and save his stuff for later once you are comfortable.

Relax and Watch/listen/copy


Note: Tried one myself for a day - Decided Vertical coils were not to my liking.

 

[CloudZ]

I'm just wondering WHY you decided to jump on a Vertical coil before learning the Basics of coil building???????
Already suggested you STOP using RIP as your guide and save his stuff for later once you are comfortable.

I just want to add that it doesn't have to be a microcoil either. A normal spaced coil will work just fine and may be easier.

 

[Elendil]

Do you have a syringe needle fits inside the coil? It makes it a lot easier to have something inside the coil when you are attaching it and adjusting height.

I don't have the coordination or the third hand to hold the syringe or drill bit and tighten the screw

 

[bce22]

Your using the coil winding wire gizmo. Keep the coil on the mandrel while you tighten the leads. This of course only works in horizontal orientation. It will help maintain the coil's integrity while you tighten down the leads. Once tightened pull the coil up while still in the mandrel to rise it 1-2mm above the airhole.

 

[Elendil]

I understand about the horizontal could. But Even on the pro tanks, I was unable to get the wick threaded through the coil. I just could not do it. I do not know why. It just never worked.

 

[Chiku]

I understand about the horizontal could. But Even on the pro tanks, I was unable to get the wick threaded through the coil. I just could not do it. I do not know why. It just never worked.

Using cotton right? When I roll the end I make one end quite thin to thread it thru. If that didn't work, maybe try using a small piece of wire folded in half, push thru the coil, put the cotton in the loop and pull thru. Like a sewing needle threader.

 

[crxess]

Simple:
Don't use to much cotton.
Wet the end and twist - in direction of coil wrap
Snip any straggly end before threading
Keep twisting as you pull through - This helps reduce chance of bunching.

Use your Resistance meter as a Base stand to free up both hands mounting the coil

 

[Elendil]

I have another coil built right now that fires fine and is at 1.4ohm. I have been trying to wick it for half an hour and can't get it. Silica or yarn doesn't matter. the ends won't stay on the shelf above the channels even after saturated with juice. I've probable wasted 2ml of juice just trying to wick this thing.

 

[crxess]

I have another coil built right now that fires fine and is at 1.4ohm. I have been trying to wick it for half an hour and can't get it. Silica or yarn doesn't matter. the ends won't stay on the shelf above the channels even after saturated with juice. I've probable wasted 2ml of juice just trying to wick this thing.

Wicks to long?
They should be right at the back edge of the channels - I prefer cotton Ball - no twisted thread memory
Silica is a bit rigid - has to be tucked after the chimney is installed.

Are you using Peaches and Cream yarn? Seems to be the only trusted yarn around here.

Wetting to fit to deck - no more than 2-3 drops

 

[Elendil]

This is where I am at after 30 minutes of trying to set up the wick

 

[Elendil]

red heart yarn from wal mart. No dyes.

 

[superstardj]

Ok with the cotton, after you push it through the coil fold both ends up to make a v, screw the cylinder part of the chimney on and over the two parts of cotton, at this point you will have the cotton sticking up over the chimney like || - leave about 1/4 inch and cut the excess off so you only have a little sticking up past the top of the cylinder, very gently push the two prices of cotton down towards each juice well. Don't stuff it just gently place it down with a screwdriver, screw the second chimney piece on, reassemble and fill. This is what I do and it wicks perfect each time. Remember with the cotton, less is more even though it would seem like a bunch would be better but having more makes the wicking slower or not work at all therefore making it burn.

 

[superstardj]

Looks like (from the picture) you are using too much cotton

 

[superstardj]

And of course drop 7-8 drops of juice on the cotton and coil and test fire before you re assemble

 

[superstardj]

Sorry I just read you aren't using cotton, you might have better luck with cotton over what you are using...I can take some pictures tomorrow from A to Z as I need to rewick if that would help you

 

[Elendil]

Here is with the chimney on



Going to assemble and fill

 

[Elendil]

Just a tiny amount of vapor and burnt .... taste again

 

[Elendil]

I took it apart. Juice was literally dripping off the wick, yet I got no vapor and only a strong burnt taste.

 

[superstardj]

Looks like your using way too much wick sill IMO, just to compare when I use cotton it might be 2 inches long max, prob about 1.5 or so it should come out of the coil and go down and touch the juice well and maybe have an additional .2 inch no more or the wick whatever material you are using is going to absorb the juice too much and not get to the coil therefore burning