I consider it over saturated. Matter of personal preference. I own all the Kayfuns from the Lite Plus on up. This 5 is my least favorite.
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Strange. Does it happen with every draw? Do you have other K5s that are doing this? I've got 2 K5s in use, and I only get the super saturated hit every once in a while. It did take me quite a while to arrive at a coil/wick build that I like, but these 2 K5s are my favorites- generally like the vape better than my KMV3. The only issues I've had with both 5s has been the seeping from the base, which was corrected in both of them by replacing the 2 lowest o-rings.
It was @magicmyst. Seems to have improved a bit with only 1 full turn on the juice control. I also went with a little less wick at the same time. It has improved, and I do like it, but don't love it.
I remember when the V3 first came out and everyone was saying how fool proof it was, that you can throw any build in it and it's a great vape. I took some flack for calling BS on that because that was not my experience with the 3 or the 5. It took me quite a while to come up with a build that matched or exceeded the flavor I got from my former KFL+. But it was worth it. The flavor I get now is excellent, better than I ever got from the KFL+.
I'm about totally ready to give up on KF5. It's better for me using the new 6ml steel tank section, but I still have the same sporadic "weep" issues around the AFC ring, especially after going outside into the heat and back to the AC.
Flavor is superb, and building on the thing is super easy...I just hate having to wipe the juice off the bottom! Never had to do that with KF4.
Flavor is superb, and building on the thing is super easy...I just hate having to wipe the juice off the bottom! Never had to do that with KF4.
No leaking issues here.
Just muted flavor, and a dislike of how very large this tank is.
I'm not giving up yet.
I trust SM, and will keep trying builds to find the bliss so many are experiencing.
Just muted flavor, and a dislike of how very large this tank is.
I'm not giving up yet.
I trust SM, and will keep trying builds to find the bliss so many are experiencing.
I previously mentioned some success with a Clapton wire I purchased from Lightning Vapes.
It's 36g Kanthal, wrapped around a single core of 28g Kanthal.
It's been the only successful build I've achieved on this atomizer, with or without the airflow reducers.
Very much agree.
I know many are reporting success and vaping bliss with this device, using their normal build...and it is the exact opposite with me, and I cannot figure out why this device fails to produce the same experience I've had with all other SM atomizers.
Not giving up though! I bought two of these things, in case I liked it...so I've gotta make them pull their weight, or just sell them...which will be an odd feeling, as I've never re-sold an SM product.
Thanks Mike. I've tried both things you mentioned previously, without change. I did get suitable performance for one build, using basically whisker sized wick tails, but my bonsai skills aren't up to that sort of task on a regular basis
I think my biggest issue is the liquid. I vape basically the same stuff all the time (and have for years now). It's a bit on the thin side...I'd say 60/40 pg/vg, but the ratio isn't published.
This sort of leaking seems to be a very common issue for me using tanks that have slotted air inlet's. The only 2 RTA's I've ever used that I found reliable (i.e. Not leaky), was the original SQuape, and most recently KF4 for the last year or so.
I've been told by others, that the dampness/leaky stuff I experience is "normal" and not to worry about it...but that's not acceptable to me.
At any rate, that's my story with KF5. I've got 3 of the things, 1 I haven't even opened yet. Looks like they'll be going to the classies in the not too distant future.
What are the exact specs for your builds?Thanks Mike. I've tried both things you mentioned previously, without change. I did get suitable performance for one build, using basically whisker sized wick tails, but my bonsai skills aren't up to that sort of task on a regular basis
I think my biggest issue is the liquid. I vape basically the same stuff all the time (and have for years now). It's a bit on the thin side...I'd say 60/40 pg/vg, but the ratio isn't published.
This sort of leaking seems to be a very common issue for me using tanks that have slotted air inlet's. The only 2 RTA's I've ever used that I found reliable (i.e. Not leaky), was the original SQuape, and most recently KF4 for the last year or so.
I've been told by others, that the dampness/leaky stuff I experience is "normal" and not to worry about it...but that's not acceptable to me.
At any rate, that's my story with KF5. I've got 3 of the things, 1 I haven't even opened yet. Looks like they'll be going to the classies in the not too distant future.
Have you disassemble and reassembled the unit?
What powers are you running it at?
Wick material and size?
Pix would help.
Thanks, Jim
The desire to assist is appreciated. I tore down the build, and have cleaned and stored the KF5 already, so I can't get pics.
As far as coil & wick, I've been using 28awg SS316L and rayon for some time now, in TC mode, at 30w/450°F, spaced coils. These settings work best for me with this liquid.
I've tried coil ID's from 1.5mm to 3mm, really dense wick, really light wick, and lots of variations in between. I've paid special attention to wick tail density and length, as well as just packed it full. As I stated before, I had the best luck with really thin wick tails that just tickle the deck, but it was such a pain for me to deal with, it's a non-starter. I've tried pretty much the full gambit of things.
I learned a hard lesson about filling level early on with KF5, as in if it's overfilled, it will flat out purge liquid not just weep. That ticked me off, but I got by that.
I really do believe it's a liquid issue. I had really good luck vaping a high VG liquid, but that's just not something I can do even most of the time (unlike most folks). I'm a strange vaper. I accepted that a long time ago
What's really important to me is being able to reliably build an atty every week or two, fill it once per day, and just vape it. Regularly having to deal with leaks, or tinkering with coils, worrying about whether or not a moderate change in temperature/humidity is going to cause an issue, having to constantly open & close JFC to make sure leaks don't happen...not enough time in my day to deal with that kind of stuff.
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