Bad teeth, cavities, and vaping.

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OptimusJD

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OP if you do get your tooth pulled, you cannot vape for days. I don't know if you ever had (or heard of) dry socket but it's a pain that is beyond any toothache you could imagine.

Heh, back in 2000 I had all 4 wisdom teeth removed. Suffered the pain after because the Vicodin they gave me made me very sick. 4 days later I figured, eh, what the heck and started smoking again. 2 days after that, yeah Dry socket. The pain from the surgery was NOTHING compared to that. Seriously, I can't even compare it to anything. It brought me to my knees crying like a baby.

I'm taking an antibiotic right now to knock out a possible root infection and hopefully the tooth get's pulled this week. Nice thing is, this time since I have been vaping, I can go without and just get some patches or even drip some juice on my wrists if I have a nic fit. I will NOT get dry socket again. haha
 

deusXmchna

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Many of my teeth have turned to dust. I'm also under 40yrs old. I've got more porcelain in my mouth than my old Aunt Edna does in her Tea Cabinet, and more titanium in my mouth than she has in her hip :laugh:
Combination of Mom taking an antibiotic when she was preggers w/ me, and a lifetime of various meds w/ anticholinergic side effects that leave my mouth dry as a bone. :p
Of course dry mouth->acids start to form -> demineralization of the tooth -> and it crumbles one day while eating pudding :?:

Oasis mouthwash & spray for me.
Sometimes if I'm out of the spray I'll mix up something of my own with glycerin, xylitol, & a mint extract. (glycerin moistens the mouth... like lotion,for mucus membranes :) )

Biotene makes a gum with enzymes & xylitol. Actually any sugar-free gum helps by stimulating saliva(and the amylase) production. The gums with xylitol have the added effect of killing off the unwanted flora & fauna. Dunno if you're past the point where you can chew gum though.

I haven't tried it yet, but last time I was shopping for oral demulcents, I found OraMoist Dry Mouth Patches. You stick 'em to the roof of your mouth, and along with the anti-bacterial/fungal effects of xylitol, it contains enzymes, and also a salivary stimulant. The study or two I found on it looked promising, but again, haven't actually tried it it yet. It's next on my list. Although there's really not much more damage to be done for me, but I do get candida infections when I don't stay on top of things, and I can get pretty bad irritations as well.

Good luck.
 

deusXmchna

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Nice thing is, this time since I have been vaping, I can go without and just get some patches or even drip some juice on my wrists if I have a nic fit. I will NOT get dry socket again. haha

Just drip into hole where your tooth was. Combination nic replacement therapy, and keeping the socket nice and moist :blush:

(great avatar!)
 

my2heartboys

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Do you have chronic problems with dry mouth...even before vaping? Drink LOTS of water frequently as it will help keep the mouth cleaned of bacteria. If you have had chronic dry mouth even before vaping, then I would also advise you to be checked out by a regular MD. If you are on cardiac or antidepressant medications, this can also exacerbate the problem. A good part of the solution is to take very frequent drinks of water.

I do have dentures and they are no fun!!!!!

Anne

Yeah, I swear by sensodyne and biotene mouthwash. My teeth have been horrible most of my life. Even as a child they would crumble no matter how many times I brushed. I see dentures in my near future at 38 years old. Fun times.
 

Dooter

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I will be doing dentures next month, even the teeth under the crowns have gone bad but the dentist said that's because the other dentist did shoddy work. I'm going with the more expensive route though they are putting in two implants to hold the bottom dentures stead and same with the top. Not looking forward to this at all.

Good luck, Moonrai... I'm not too far behind you - I'll be in the same boat soon. At least it puts an end to putting up with the pain.
 

my2heartboys

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WARNING, WARNING, standard operating procedure....DO NOT I repeat DO NOT vape, suck through a straw, or anything else that requires a sucking action for the 1st 24 hours after tooth removal. If you do, you run a high risk of something called dry socket and I have heard that is worse than an actual tooth ache. They do have a paste to help with it, but I have heard it tastes nasty and I KNOW it smells worse....

Anne
 

TWalker

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Vaping actually should cause better breath and a cleaner mouth with VG anyway and probably PG.

Glycerol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Topical pure or nearly pure glycerol is an effective treatment for psoriasis, burns, bites, cuts, rashes, bedsores, and calluses. It can be used orally to eliminate halitosis, as it is a contact bacterial desiccant. The same property makes it very helpful with periodontal disease; it penetrates biofilm quickly and eliminates bacterial colonies.

My lover of 2 years who is a non-smoker always comments on great my breath is. Hers is not nearly as clean and great smelling as mine. Ha.

That sounded bad but it is true, although she has great hygiene, her breath smells on occasion but mine never does.
 

MedsKid

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WARNING, WARNING, standard operating procedure....DO NOT I repeat DO NOT vape, suck through a straw, or anything else that requires a sucking action for the 1st 24 hours after tooth removal. If you do, you run a high risk of something called dry socket and I have heard that is worse than an actual tooth ache. They do have a paste to help with it, but I have heard it tastes nasty and I KNOW it smells worse....

Anne


Paste my foot my dentist threw clove oil into my hole then then rinse with scope and lemme tell u burning + burning in a fresh painfull hole = I spewed the scope AND drool AND clove crap out my mouth all over him and he was pizzed LOL he yelled at me I yelled bk he apologized for hurting me like he did (he knew what would happen) this all happened 4 yrs ago so the paste thing might b new
 

MedsKid

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Vaping actually should cause better breath and a cleaner mouth with VG anyway and probably PG.

Glycerol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



My lover of 2 years who is a non-smoker always comments on great my breath is. Hers is not nearly as clean and great smelling as mine. Ha.

That sounded bad but it is true, although she has great hygiene, her breath smells on occasion but mine never does.

Send said woman to the dentist have dentist look for tonsililoths (tonsil stones) even if she doesnt have tonsils she may have tonsil stones (these things stink and usually are the cause of horrible breath)
 

moonrai1980

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I went back to the dentist today I had another tooth break must've been in my sleep though. They did the normal exam and told me to keep vaping because my gums and cheeks were looking better, but from the one tooth breaking I didn't clean it out as well as I thought I did and now I have a massive infection in my jawbone. I don't have a single saveable tooth so next week they are all comming out and the infection ate some of my jawbone now I have to add in a bone graft. I will add thought the last biopsy came back well no cancer just horrid teeth that have finally caught up with me, but the last dentist who did all the shoddy work before is paying for half of my work. And it only took 175 complaints against him to have his liscence revoked. Good luck to everyone who is having dental problems.
 

Insomniac Jack

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i've got really bad teeth due to various medications. And when I told the dentist I used sensodyne he flipped out on me. I'm on the way to dentures in the next few months because mine cannot even be crowned. But he said that sensodyne can rot your gums which is what mine were doing. And he told me from that moment on not to use any toothpaste that even had a drop of flouride in it (not sure why he is against flouride for adults). So found some at the healthfood store with xylotol and teeth are still bad but they don't hurt and no sensitivity either. He also gave me a dry mouth gel that works wonders. Still dreading that next trip to the dentist.
Good dentist.
 

silkakc

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I went back to the dentist today I had another tooth break must've been in my sleep though. They did the normal exam and told me to keep vaping because my gums and cheeks were looking better, but from the one tooth breaking I didn't clean it out as well as I thought I did and now I have a massive infection in my jawbone. I don't have a single saveable tooth so next week they are all comming out and the infection ate some of my jawbone now I have to add in a bone graft. I will add thought the last biopsy came back well no cancer just horrid teeth that have finally caught up with me, but the last dentist who did all the shoddy work before is paying for half of my work. And it only took 175 complaints against him to have his liscence revoked. Good luck to everyone who is having dental problems.

Moonrai,

I just said a prayer for you. Sometimes our teeth are almost "out of our control". My best friend brushes once a day and flosses 2 times a yr- right before her dentist visit. She's never had a cavity in her 48 yrs!! And she smokes and drinks:)

I brush 3 times a day and floss and use ACT rinse daily and I've lost half of my teeth. I don't eat candy or sweets and don't smoke or drink LOL!

Try to cook a bunch of tiny noodles before your visit. Like the Ditalini kind of pasta or the miniature seashells. I lived on them last week when I had some extractions.

Do you have a 5 volt ecig? I have the $25 five volt passthrough and wall plug from madVapes. You don't have to suck hard on those to get good vapor. I used it after my extractions and had no problems with dry socket. I didn't use my Riva at all the first 4 days.

Good luck and you'll be okay,
Lori
 

maureengill

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I am now starting to regret coming into this thread....

I also am one who has more porcelain in my mouth with nubs underneath. I have 6 teeth left to go if I ever find the cash or get dental insurance (bottom front). I told them to root canal all of them before crowning. Apparently my dentist missed one root canal at one point and I had to go to a specialist to have a root canal done through a crown....talk about the pain from hell....I thought my face was going to explode....root canal pain sucks bad enough, but when under a crown it's 5 times worse...there is nowhere for the pressure to go....
I've had crown lengthening surgeries, scaling and planing, had a wisdom tooth grow in and break the tooth next to it, then it was so weak it broke, all but 6 teeth root canalled and crowned...you name it. I've been having a problem with my gums lately, but this started back when I was still smoking.
I apologize to ANYONE who has to go through this....I was at the point where I couldn't get into the dentist chair without crying my eyes out...unfortunately I wasn't crying because of the pain in my mouth....all that dental work is so tiring and wears you down.
 

moonrai1980

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Thank you for the much appreciated prayer. And Maureen teeth work cost so much you should look into the discount dental plans they are worth it and saved me more than insurance did. I've saved around $18,000 from all the work i've had done over the years and i've used two different plans throughout the years. So that might be somthing to look into.
 

HillBill

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i've got really bad teeth due to various medications. And when I told the dentist I used sensodyne he flipped out on me. I'm on the way to dentures in the next few months because mine cannot even be crowned. But he said that sensodyne can rot your gums which is what mine were doing. And he told me from that moment on not to use any toothpaste that even had a drop of flouride in it (not sure why he is against flouride for adults). So found some at the healthfood store with xylotol and teeth are still bad but they don't hurt and no sensitivity either. He also gave me a dry mouth gel that works wonders. Still dreading that next trip to the dentist.
Sorry to .... in...but I read this, was shocked and I think you should change your dentist. He is advising you against Sensodyne, one of the toothpastes UK dentists prefer, and is against Flouride, even the minute amounts that are in toothpaste? My alarm bells are ringing. Does he see you and your insurance as a cash cow, I wonder? I don't expect you to believe me but maybe ask yourself this - did he give you specific reasons for these opinions? If he didn't, LEAVE, please for the sake of your teeth. Hope things improve for you soon. :)
 
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