hi. i am a noob at this vaping business. i bought a ijoy 200w. i got a charger and some batteries which came with it. they are beeway 18650 2600mAh. i do not know if they are safe for vaping. i cannot find the specs of this battery anywhere. has anyone had any experience with these batteries. i have used them and they seem fine they dont even get warm but id rather have some1 with experience give their views thanks
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Never heard of them, probably a Chinese battery cloner or re-wrapper. 2600mah sounds like the old Sony VTC5 2600mah 20amp battery, so I'd be cautious of any battery that isn't made by LG, Panasonic/Sanyo, Samsung, or Sony. Link in my signature has a breakdown list of the various batteries we suggest here to help you out.
thanks. i have seen some tests done on them and they do have genuine 2600mAh. just not sure on the amp. i only vape at 35-50 watts about 200c temp hopefully wont put 2 much strain on them
Never a good idea to use unknown quality cells for vaping purposes.
I haven't ever viewed a test where they were pushed past 5A, best to use them in a flashlight or other low drain low amp demand purpose.
I wouldn't use them at all, no reason to take chances.
Get some authentic name brand cells from a reputable vendor / dealer.
These 20a would be the very bare minimum to use in a 200w device.
Samsung 30q 3000mah 20a CDR
LgHg2 3000mah 18ish a CDR
Sony vtc6 3000mah 19ish a CDR
These 25a CDR would be a good choice for higher wattage's than the 20a can support, safely.
Sony vtc5A must be ‘A’ 2500mah 25a CDR
Lg HD2 2000mah 25a CDR
Lg HD2C 2100 mah 25a CDR
These 30a for even higher wattage's than the 25a can support, safely.
Sony vtc3 1500mah 28ish a CDR
LGHB series 1500mah 30a CDR
I haven't ever viewed a test where they were pushed past 5A, best to use them in a flashlight or other low drain low amp demand purpose.
I wouldn't use them at all, no reason to take chances.
Get some authentic name brand cells from a reputable vendor / dealer.
These 20a would be the very bare minimum to use in a 200w device.
Samsung 30q 3000mah 20a CDR
LgHg2 3000mah 18ish a CDR
Sony vtc6 3000mah 19ish a CDR
These 25a CDR would be a good choice for higher wattage's than the 20a can support, safely.
Sony vtc5A must be ‘A’ 2500mah 25a CDR
Lg HD2 2000mah 25a CDR
Lg HD2C 2100 mah 25a CDR
These 30a for even higher wattage's than the 25a can support, safely.
Sony vtc3 1500mah 28ish a CDR
LGHB series 1500mah 30a CDR
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after a bit of research i think they are re wraps of nitecore batteries as they are sold with the charger but they have many different ratings from 4a up to 40a so im not gona gamble it as they prob the 4a
to be honest i dont plan on vaping any higher than 50watts if that. i just went for the battery capacity and it was cheap as chips. i find 40watts on .33 is enough for me. i dont know how much current its pulling atm just on that. its a regulated mod so im not sure how to work it out properly
Using a regulated power device battery amp drain will be highest at the power device low voltage cutoff.
W/V = A
Example;
40w / 3v = 13.3a, not including device inefficiency.
40w / 6v = 6.6a
Just me, I wouldn't use those batteries at all, no reason to take chances with unknown quality cells.
W/V = A
Example;
40w / 3v = 13.3a, not including device inefficiency.
40w / 6v = 6.6a
Just me, I wouldn't use those batteries at all, no reason to take chances with unknown quality cells.
i have been trying to work it out. ijoy is 1-8v 1-45a so im geusing its parallel batteries so the cut off will be around 6volts. so if i use 35watts say that would only be 5.83a. if the batteries are 4a each wont i have 8a to play with. i know its not much but i nees it till i get new 1s
sorry but im trying to suck the .... out of a xenos with a true vape top end because my mini valt fell apart. i need a ciggeratte lol
From what I can see, they are designed for other devices(flashlights mainly), not vaping. Beeway® LED Flashlight - Torch 18650 Li-ion Batteries and USB Charger: Amazon.co.uk: DIY & Tools
From an Amazon listing:
- Beeway rechargeable 18650 lithium ion batteries (3.7V 2600mAH) are applied for high-power CREE LED flashlights or headlamps. And they can also be backup batteries for your travelling, camping, exploring, hunting or job site working etc. ( NOT SUITABLE FOR ELECTRONIC CIGERETTS / VAPE MOD )
would these be any good they are 20a rated.
would i get 40a with 2 batteries..im not planning on going any higher than 50w
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I'd suggest a cheap cigalike or ego set up while you wait for batteries to arrive.
My point is, your cells might be decent 20a, but, they also might be the wrong chemistry for vaping use low drain 2.8a cells that might ruin your power device and or injure you too.
Like I said Ive never seen battery's like yours pushed past 5a, that is not a recommendation or a 'you should be okay up to 5a'.
I wouldn't use them, at all, not worth the risk.
If I had a choice between possibly ruining my power device and or injuring myself using unknown quality cells and using 2 cigalike's at the same time one in each corner of my mouth, I be puffing on the cigalikes.
My point is, your cells might be decent 20a, but, they also might be the wrong chemistry for vaping use low drain 2.8a cells that might ruin your power device and or injure you too.
Like I said Ive never seen battery's like yours pushed past 5a, that is not a recommendation or a 'you should be okay up to 5a'.
I wouldn't use them, at all, not worth the risk.
If I had a choice between possibly ruining my power device and or injuring myself using unknown quality cells and using 2 cigalike's at the same time one in each corner of my mouth, I be puffing on the cigalikes.
I provided a list of good cells to chose from, amazon is the last place I'd buy batteries.
I'd chose samsung 30q over the 25r just for increased capacity.
If you're in the US there are a few good vendors, if elsewhere in the world we'd have to wait for someone nearer to you to find a reputable vendor.
im in england so id be waiting a while for them to be shipped here. il.pop in the local vape shop see if they have anything in there.
cheers for the help. sorry total noob at this
come from a mini vault 40w to something i have to set up myself. bit more to it than what i originally thought
Nitecore batteries are themselves rewraps. Pretty much only Sony, LG, Samsung, and Panasonic manufacture 18650s.
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Those are good batteries, but don't buy from Amazon or EBay. Many fakes. Buy only from trusted vendors (I use nkon and akkuteile in Europe, americans here on the forum should be able to recommend trusted vendors over there).
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Thanks i have bought 2 from the local vape shop. now on charge. only charging them at 0.5 amps so will be a while.
if i have 2 does that mean i have 40a to play with or is it still 20a but more mHz
they are samsung 25r. £10 for both
if i have 2 does that mean i have 40a to play with or is it still 20a but more mHz
they are samsung 25r. £10 for both
The wattage used and the low voltage cutoff determines battery amp drain rate as long as the result doesn't exceed the power devices input amp limit.
The amps displayed on the screen are output / from the 'chip' to the delivery device, that doesn't relate to input / from batteries to chip.
Just me, I tend to be conservative, 100w - 120w from a 2 cell power device using 20a CDR cells is about as high as I go.
Some folks use power settings above that, we all have to set our own comfort zone / saftey limits when using the cells we use.
The amps displayed on the screen are output / from the 'chip' to the delivery device, that doesn't relate to input / from batteries to chip.
Just me, I tend to be conservative, 100w - 120w from a 2 cell power device using 20a CDR cells is about as high as I go.
Some folks use power settings above that, we all have to set our own comfort zone / saftey limits when using the cells we use.
Ouch on the price you paid! My first 6 batteries I purchased, I purchased full retail price as well, sure was a hit!
The website where I now purchase my batteries is;
liionwholesale.com
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