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Beware of the Quit Smoking Purists

Discussion in 'Switching' started by John Phoenix, May 19, 2011.

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  1. John Phoenix

    John Phoenix Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 12, 2011
    New Orleans
    I went looking around the net to find places that supported e-cig use, just so I'd know. I came across a popular quit smoking forum that had next to nothing on it about e-cigs. I decided to join and tell of my experiences thinking it might help someone.

    That turned out to be a bad bad bad idea. I posted my story in an area of the forum made for that exact purpose.. to tell how long you had been smoke free and how you did it.

    I seem to ran into a bunch of quit smoking purists because I am getting attacked at every turn for my e-cig usage. They see the nic usage and the vapor and insist that I am still smoking. I don't know if they have a problem with reading comprehension or what but I seem to keep repeating the same things that they just don't seem to get. It's like the info simply don't register with them.

    Have a look at the thread here if you want to. • View topic - Over 2 weeks Smoke Free - How I did it.

    The saddest part is that they claim to want to help others quit but will not suggest e-cigs it seems if their lives depended on it.

    I just wanted to share something that might help others, not go there and fight with these people but I am getting frustrated. Perhaps someone has some ideas on dealing with these types of people?
  2. permafrying

    permafrying Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 1, 2011
    montrose co
    lol wow i skimmed threw that, some close minded people in this world
  3. want to quit

    want to quit Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 26, 2011
    Germany/ Atlanta, GA
    I have not read it but one reason could be that they just hate to see that people found a easier better way to get off of cigs then just doing it cold turkey. To make another example remember high school or middle school where you (I) studied your a.. off for the next exam for days and nights and you end up with a B whereas the guy/girl next to you is one of those super smart kids that didn't even bother to look in her book and ends up with an A? Maybe just a childhood trauma but that could be a reason. They probably did it cold turkey ended up gaining 30 pounds and losing some friends due to being moody all the time and you found yourself a way to still enjoy in and exhaling something (vapor) with fewer health risks they just can't stand that fact.

    *Going to read your Thread now*

    Edit: Just read some of it and well I started vaping to find a healthier solution to smoking. Vaping is for sure a better Idk if you said it in your post on that forum but you know e-cigs are still not really "healthy" its just "healthier" in which case they have somewhat 1 or 2 good arguments but mainly they are small minded or how I like to call it idiots.
  4. Levitas

    Levitas Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 2, 2011
    Saint Louis
    I registered and commented, but since each comment is to be reviewed by a moderator, I highly doubt it'll be posted. ;)
  5. garyinco

    garyinco Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2010
    CO, USA
    Geesh, quit wasting your time. Just another bunch of moronic zealots, many of which are probably whacked out on stuff like Chantix. Kinda sad, really. Reminds me of the OUTSIDE! sub-forum here (aka, the island of misfit vapors).
  6. cskent

    cskent Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 24, 2010
    It seems like they have the attitude that "my opinion is fact and therefore you are wrong".
  7. Ande

    Ande Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 27, 2011
    THere still ain't no cure for stupid.

    It's a shame, but... What can you do.

    Some people like to criticize others and feel superior.


  8. stretchpants

    stretchpants ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    In my opinion e-smokers are just hard to live with.I only knew one ex-smoker that would admit they still loved the smell of smoke and would walk right through a crowd of smokers puffing away at the outside ashtray just to breathe it in. It doesn't matter to me what they think.I am a non smoker.I vape therefore I am.But....I too will still walk through a crowd of smokers huddled around the outside ashtray.

    P.S. My Doctor confirmed I am no longer a smoker. She's so proud of me!
  9. mjones

    mjones Unregistered Supplier ECF Veteran

    Apr 7, 2009
    South Carolina USA
    LMAO that guy greenlover is amish, I bet he can't even find an outlet to charge an ecig battery anyway. Thats one reason he's prlly against it, its technology that is not an option for amish ppl. Unless they make a horse powered ecig hahaha. I guess he only lives near the amish, hes posting on a forum with a computer. Nic can technically constrict bloodvessels and could be a possible cause a heartattack, if ur really clogged up.
  10. NicLiq

    NicLiq Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 11, 2011
    Twin Cities, MN
    Yikes, remind me never to go there again!

    You did such a good job too, it was painful to read their responses to you.

    I am a nicotine addict and I plan to stay one, just without something burning in front of my face. Cooking I can live with.
  11. garyinco

    garyinco Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2010
    CO, USA
    Ditto that! I would have not had the patience.
  12. slumdog

    slumdog Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Valiant effort.......
  13. DarthSnoopyFish

    DarthSnoopyFish Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 5, 2011
    Burlingame, CA
    Phoenix, Stop feeding that troll
  14. cigarbabe

    cigarbabe Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 20, 2010
    I also registered and posted in a couple threads which are of course "awaiting moderation".
    I have started by saying I quit but not mentioning my method since the thread didn't ask.
    There is a ton of misinformation over there also, such as "nicotine cause a flight or fight response it doesn't relieve anxiety". I know it relieves anxiety for me and depression.
    This is the first time I've heard that phrased like that and he also said "you don't metabolize any nicotine just piss it away when you smoke cigarettes".
    Maybe I'm just stupid but this just sounds wrong to me. :?: • View topic - How can I control stress without my nicotine fix?
  15. John Phoenix

    John Phoenix Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 12, 2011
    New Orleans
    Thank you all for your support.

    For those who posted I am sure it will get posted - the moderators took their time with my first posts.

    Snoopy Fish your right. It's kinda funny in a strange sort of way but that guy, the regular respected member seems very much like a troll. I think he was feeding me too. Hard to ignore someone who insists your still a smoker when your not. I thought I wanted to explain things to him because he honestly didn't understand but I see no bit of information will make him change his mind.

    That forum is part of a quit smoking website that sells pharmaceutical quit smoking products. Notice it's the first quit smoking forum that pops up on Google. I wonder how much money is thrown into that forum from Big Pharma. It explains why the site seems slanted - it's not really a quit smoking forum, it's a Big Pharma forum in the disguise of a quit smoking forum.
  16. NicLiq

    NicLiq Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 11, 2011
    Twin Cities, MN
    I about fell off my chair when I read about peeing out nicotine, which in turn causes withdrawal. Well, I'm female and in my 40's, I go a lot, all night long, and I never felt the need to go have a cigarette after I went.
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  17. washvap

    washvap Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Apr 2, 2011
    Wow, don't worry about those people. Just leave them alone, they're in their own little world over there.
  18. ShannonA

    ShannonA Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 15, 2011
    Tyler, Tx
    Not all are like that my mother quit cold turkey when she was about 30. She had smoked for years and she's thrilled that I'm vaping instead even with me telling her I may not ever quit. She's just glad I'm not lighting up.
  19. ShannonA

    ShannonA Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 15, 2011
    Tyler, Tx
    My favorite was the one who said that e cigs are just for people who don't want to quit smoking but want to be socially acceptable. Have they read the news lately? Socially acceptable? Really?

    Now in all fairness some of us do not want to quit the action, some don't want to give up the nic and some don't want to give up any of it. But many of us did or do want to quit smoking.
  20. CBB

    CBB Super Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 20, 2011
    I understand spam control, but the idea of every thread having to be approved before posted leads me to believe that only the shiny happy threads get posted and the ones about the people who scalped their children for breathing too loud when they were having a nic fit don't make it.

    Throw this at the wall and see if it sticks has a whole new meaning when someone is wiping off what they don't like.
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