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Bill Godshall urges opposition to FDA deeming reg at FDLI conference because it would give e-cig industry to Big Tobacco

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  1. Bill Godshall

    Bill Godshall Executive Director
    Smokefree Pennsylvania
    ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Apr 2, 2009
    Below is my presentation exposing and opposing the FDA Deeming Regulation yesterday at the Food and Drug Law Institute's annual conference in DC (after FDA Commissioner Margaret Hamburg told the audience the deeming regulation was "imminent", and shortly after Mitch Zeller's presentation praising the FDA's CTP).

    Tobacco: An Update on Tobacco Product Deeming Regulations
    Bill Godshall, Executive Director, Smokefree Pennsylvania
    Bryan Haynes, Partner, Troutman Sanders
    Dennis Henigan, Director, Legal and Policy Analysis, Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids
    Mitch Neuhauser, Managing Counsel – Regulatory, RAI Services Company, Reynolds American Incorporated
    Sudhanshu Patwardhan, Senior International Engagement Manager, Nicoventures

    The FDLI conference agenda is at

    Impact of FDA Deeming Regulation on Public Health

    FDLI Annual Conference
    April 23, 2014
    Washington, DC

    Presentation by
    Bill Godshall
    Executive Director
    Smokefree Pennsylvania
    1926 Monongahela Avenue
    Pittsburgh, PA 15218

    For disclosure, neither I nor Smokefree Pennsylvania have ever received any funding from any tobacco, drug or electronic cigarette company or trade association.

    According to the CDC, cigarette smoking causes 480,000 deaths annually in the US. In sharp contrast, the scientific and empirical evidence indicate that cigar smoking cause no more than several hundred deaths annually, smokeless tobacco causes no more than several dozen deaths annually, pipe smoking cause no more than several deaths annually, there’s no evidence that e-cigarettes or dissolvables have ever killed anyone, and no evidence e-cigs or dissolvables cause any disease.

    More than 99% of all tobacco attributable morbidity, mortality and health care costs in the US are caused by cigarette smoking, while <1% are caused by the combined use of smokeless tobacco, cigars, pipe tobacco and e-cigarettes.

    But five years ago, FDA spokesperson Rita Chappelle revealed the agency’s unscientific, unethical and inhumane policy to deceive Americans about e-cigs to defend the FDA’s unlawful e-cig ban “We don’t want the public to perceive them as a safer alternative to cigarettes.”

    Unfortunately for smokers and public health, this is still an underlying policy of Obama’s DHHS, which also deceptively claims that “tobacco use” instead of “cigarette smoking” is the nation’s leading cause of disease and death (including Mitch Zeller’s slide during the last panel discussion).

    For nearly thirty years, DHHS has claimed that smokeless tobacco is NOT a safe alternative to cigarettes despite epidemiologic evidence indicating smokeless tobacco is 99% less hazardous than cigarettes.

    So nobody should be surprised, but everyone should be alarmed, that federal health officials have been deceiving smokers and the public to believe that all tobacco/nicotine products are as hazardous as cigarettes, except for the nicotine products marketed by drug companies, which DHHS deceptively promotes as the most effective ways to quit smoking even though gums, lozenges and patches have a 95% failure rate as smoking cessation aids.

    The growing mountain of scientific and empirical evidence consistently indicates that e-cigarettes are 99% (+/-1%) less hazardous than cigarettes, are consumed almost exclusively (i.e. 99%) by smokers and exsmokers who switched. E-cigs have helped several million smokers quit smoking or sharply reduce their cigarette consumption, and have replaced nearly 1 Billion packs of cigarettes in the US during the past eight years.

    The evidence also indicates that e-cigs are more effective than FDA approved NRT products for smoking cessation and reducing cigarette consumption, and e-cigs pose fewer safety risks than FDA approved Chantix.

    E-cigs emit similar trace levels of constituents as FDA approved nicotine inhalers and pose no air pollution risks to nonusers. And in sharp contrast to claims by CDC Director Tom Frieden, e-cigs haven’t been found to create nicotine dependence in any nonsmoker, e-cigs haven’t been found to precede smoking in any daily smoker, and there’s no evidence that ingesting nicotine or e-liquid has ever killed anyone.

    Since e-cigs have already helped a million smokers quit smoking and since e-cigs are 99% less hazardous than cigarettes, the only way public health could be negatively impacted by e-cigs is if 100 million nonsmokers begin vaping and no more smokers do so, which isn’t going to happen. Same thing for smokeless tobacco products.

    In sum, there is no evidence that public health would benefit if FDA imposes the deeming regulation, which the agency has stated its intent to impose since 2011. And yet, the FDA continues to falsely claim that all of its regulations are based upon scientific evidence.

    To its credit, the FDA did remove a false statement from its website stating: “To date, no tobacco products have been scientifically proven to reduce risk of tobacco-related disease, improve safety or cause less harm than other tobacco products." But DHHS has never corrected its many other false and misleading claims about e-cigs, smokeless tobacco or cigars, although Mitch Zeller has acknowledged there is a continuum of risk.

    So what would be the impact of the deeming regulation?

    Sections 905(j) and 910 would ban ALL e-cigarettes, cigars, pipe tobacco and dissolvable products because the manufacturers didn’t file Substantial Equivalence reports with FDA before the May 2011 deadline, and because no e-cig products on the market today are Substantially Equivalent to a product on the market before February 15, 2007.

    So while Judge Leon’s 2010 ruling overturning the FDA’s unlawful e-cig ban and the largely free market have enabled vapor products to significantly benefit the health of many smokers during the past several years, the FDA deeming regulation would not only halt, but would reverse all that progress because many vapers would return to cigarettes.

    To avoid losing another lawsuit, FDA might exempt e-cigarettes, cigars and other currently unregulated products from these 2007 and 2011 deadlines. But even if FDA changes these deadlines for newly regulated products, all e-cigarette products would be banned once Premarket Tobacco Applications are required for e-cigarettes.

    The FDA has not yet approved any Premarket Tobacco Applications or any MRTP applications, and it could cost manufacturers millions of dollars to file each application. Recently the FDA announced that it has refused to accept four Premarket Tobacco Applications, as well as six of the seven submitted MRTP applications (with the 7[SUP]th[/SUP] withdrawn by the manufacturer).

    The FDA has also announced that it issued 17 SE orders and 17 NSE orders, that 334 SE reports were withdrawn by the manufacturer, and that the agency refused to accept 36 letters requesting an exemption from filing a SE report. Meanwhile, the FDA still hasn’t taken action on more than 3,000 SE reports filed for products back in 2011, and still hasn’t proposed new color graphic warnings for cigarettes packs (after a federal court struck down the agency’s previously approved warnings as unconstitutional), which were required by Congress in the TCA.

    The TCA requires the FDA to consider the potential impact of black markets before approving new tobacco product regulations. Since FDA’s 2009 e-cigarette import ban created a thriving and rapidly growing black market for e-cigarettes, the FDA “deeming” regulation could create a significantly larger black market since far more e-cig products are consumed now.

    Unless the FDA exempts e-cigarettes from Section 911, manufacturers and importers would be prohibited from truthfully informing smokers that their products are less hazardous than cigarettes. And unless the FDA extends the smokeless tobacco exemption in 911(b)(2)(C) to e-cigarettes, manufacturers couldn’t even truthfully claim that e-cigarettes are "smoke free" or emit "no smoke".

    Since the TCA defines a "Tobacco Product" as "any product made or derived from tobacco that is intended for human consumption, including any component, part, or accessory of a tobacco product," the FDA "deeming" regulation would also apply to e-cigarette hardware, cartridges, batteries and rechargers.

    The deeming regulation would reduce the number of legal e-cig manufacturers from more than a thousand to less than a half dozen, and would reduce the number of legal e-cig products from tens of thousands to less than a half dozen. In sum, the deeming regulation would decimate the e-cig industry and give it to Altria, Reynolds, Lorillard, and maybe one or two large e-cig companies, and could have similarly devastating impacts on cigar and pipe tobacco companies and products.

    If FDA bans the sale of e-liquid or flavorings to consumers, it would ban the most effective smoking cessation products, as most vapers who quit smoking use mods and e-liquid instead of cigalike e-cigs. If FDA applies the same or similar advertising and marketing restrictions to e-cigs that are now imposed on cigarettes and smokeless tobacco products, fewer smokers would switch to e-cigs. All FDA regulations on e-cigs would also increase the price of e-cigs that are allowed on the market. But none of these changes would benefit public health.

    During the past 20 years, J & J, GSK, Pfizer and other drug companies have given several hundred million dollars to CTFK, ACS, AHA, ALA, AMA, Pinney Associates (which employed Mitch Zeller for most of the past decade) and others to promote FDA approved drugs as the only effective way to quit smoking, and to demonize and lobby for bans and/or unwarranted regulations on smokeless tobacco products, dissolvables, and e-cigarettes.

    32 states have now banned the sale of e-cigs to minors, and many more would have done so by now had it not been for opposition lobbying by CTFK, ACS, AHA, ALA, which have been opposing bills to ban e-cig sales to minors in about a dozen states.

    Since it is likely to take two years before the FDA deeming regulation takes effect, everyone who truly desires to ban e-cig sales to minors should be supportive of these state laws. But we haven’t heard the FDA, CDC, Senator Durbin, Rep Waxman or other proponents of the FDA deeming regulation urge states to ban e-cig sales to minors because most of them want FDA to once again ban e-cig sales to adults (under the false guise of protecting the children) .

    Please note that the US DOT still hasn’t issued a final rule on the airline vaping ban it proposed back in 2011.

    Smokers have a human right to truthful health information and legal access to less hazardous alternatives. Similarly, public health officials have an ethical duty to inform smokers that all smokefree tobacco and nicotine products are far less hazardous alternatives to cigarettes, and to keep all less hazardous alternatives legal and affordable for smokers.

    The actions and misleading claims by DHHS on smokeless tobacco and e-cigs are probably the most egregious public health malpractice ever committed by the US government, as the 45 million smokers whose lives DHHS has jeopardized far exceed the number of victims of the US Public Health Service’s infamous Tuskegee syphilis study.

    Instead of proposing, and instead of issuing a final rule for the deeming regulation, the FDA should complete the tasks mandated by Congress in the TCA, and should begin to truthfully informing smokers and the public that all smokefree tobacco and nicotine products are far less hazardous alternatives to cigarettes.

    The free market for e-cigs has saved the lives of many smokers and will continue doing so. In sharp contrast, the FDA deeming regulation and other e-cig regs would protect cigarette markets and large cigarette companies, while threatening the lives of vapers, smokers and secondhand smokers.

    Thank you,
  2. KODIAK (TM)

    KODIAK (TM) Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 31, 2014
    Dead Moose, AK
    I would put this entire document in my sig if it would fit.
  3. Lessifer

    Lessifer Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Once again, Bill, thank you for all that you do.
  4. jimbill

    jimbill Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 4, 2011
    Good job bill thank you for the good work you have done for this community:)
  5. Bill Godshall

    Bill Godshall Executive Director
    Smokefree Pennsylvania
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    Supporting member
    Apr 2, 2009
    Thanks for the kudos.

    Wells Fargo's Bonnie Herzog issued a first glance report on the FDA proposed deeming regs today, with highlights including:
    (1) companies would have to apply for FDA product approval (but have 2 years after rules are finalized to do so, and can keep their products on the market in the interim and importantly continue to bring new products to market);
    (2) no free samples of e-cig products;
    (3) ban on the sale of the devices to anyone below age of 18;
    (4) no health claims in any advertising;
    (5) requiring manufacturers to register with the FDA and list the ingredients in their products (not clear yet if these ingredients will be required to be listed on products);
    (6) requiring a warning label stating that nicotine is addictive (which would have to be added no later than 2 years after the rule is finalized).

    Importantly the proposal did NOT include:
    (1) restrictions of flavors (although it has been suggested this could be re-evaluated at a later time);
    (2) a ban on internet sales to adults;
    (3) a ban on t.v. advertising.

    As a reminder, the FDA cannot enact a federal tax on e-vapor products or ban internet sales as these would fall under the realm of Congress. Further, the FDA cannot legally ban e-cigarette advertising as that is considered "commercial speech" which is protected by the First Amendment.
  6. salemgold

    salemgold ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Jul 5, 2010
    South Carolina
    I agree. Much thanks to you, Bill. And that is hardly even close to expressing the gratitude from many of us.
  7. thew92

    thew92 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 26, 2012
    I spoke with my Congressman and a Staffer today about the deeming regs. They told me that they would NOT make any public statements about this issue unless there is a public out cry about the Regs. They did confirm that they have gotten a few emails constituents.
  8. rothenbj

    rothenbj Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Jul 23, 2009
    Green Lane, Pa
    I can only assume the reaction you got from the audience on your very upfront and honest presentation.
  9. DrMA

    DrMA Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 26, 2013
    Seattle area
    I'd be curious to find out about that reaction actually.

    Also I find it worth repeating my fave BG quote of recent days:
  10. Uma

    Uma Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 4, 2010
    You go Bill!!
  11. glasseye

    glasseye Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 15, 2012
    Myrtle Beach, SC
    Thank you Bill, that was thrilling to read. I hope they felt it when you slapped them with your words. May I have your permission to copy this and send it along with my letters to SC Senate and Representatives?
  12. aubergine

    aubergine Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 22, 2010
    Thanks as always, Bill. The actual implications of this legislation aren't being disseminated in the media very well, and even a lot of folks in here have been pretty sanguine, thinking that its impact would be negligible. So long as that misperception is in play we'll lack the 'public outrage' said to move Congresspersons.
  13. DoogieTony

    DoogieTony Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 12, 2013
    Indianapolis, IN
    Thank you, Bill. Your work is much appreciated.
  14. cvapz

    cvapz Full Member

    Mar 28, 2014
    United States
    We all need to stand strongly together on this one. We need or own lobby our voices have to be heard. Instead of spending hundreds of dollars on mods our attys we all need to put a little aside to help our cause. We all know what this is about big brother is not getting his piece of the pie and big tobacco is losing money which means the feds and state are losing out on money. This is very serious for us we have to get United and organized. I will not go back to analogs! !!!!
  15. oplholik

    oplholik ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Thanks Bill, appreciate your posting that.
  16. Nate760

    Nate760 Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 11, 2014
    San Marcos, CA, USA
    Thank you for the excellent work you do, Mr. Godshall.
  17. Katya

    Katya ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Feb 23, 2010
    [...] the FDA should complete the tasks mandated by Congress in the TCA, and should begin to truthfully informing smokers and the public that all smokefree tobacco and nicotine products are far less hazardous alternatives to cigarettes.

    The free market for e-cigs has saved the lives of many smokers and will continue doing so. In sharp contrast, the FDA deeming regulation and other e-cig regs would protect cigarette markets and large cigarette companies, while threatening the lives of vapers, smokers and secondhand smokers.

    Thank you, Bill.

    This quote will be included in every letter I write to my representatives, with or without your permission. :)
  18. EasyT

    EasyT Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 14, 2011
    Thank you Mr. Godshall.

    I truly don't know how you can stand up and slug it out day after day with people who seem intent on protecting private interests, ignoring scientific facts, and damaging the lives of the very people who employ them, but I am truly thankful that you do! I for one would not have the strength. So thank you again for everything that you do for us!
  19. DeeLeeKay

    DeeLeeKay Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 29, 2010
    Thank you, Bill. I truly appreciate all that you have done, and all you are doing to help with this battle.

  20. oldbroad

    oldbroad don't need no dang title..I'm queen of the world! Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I, too, thank you Mr.Godshall, for doing SO much to try to protect the users of all electronic vaping devices.

    The "Big Three" are nasty, greedy people only out to fill their pockets with money at the expense of our very lives!

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