Built in battery mod is good or not.??
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I prefer replaceable battery mods.
With built in battery mods, once the battery dies (in a year or two/~300 charge cycles), you have to replace the whole mod and purchase another one. More expensive in the long run.
With built in battery mods, once the battery dies (in a year or two/~300 charge cycles), you have to replace the whole mod and purchase another one. More expensive in the long run.
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Its a personal choice, but I agree with Susan~S.
The main benefit of using a mod which uses replaceable batteries is, when the battery dies in a year or two (about 300 charge cycles), instead of replacing an entire mod ($50 - $100) all you need to replace is a $6 battery. Of course, you need to also purchase a decent box battery charger for about $20.
If your mod with an internal battery runs out of a charge, you're finished vaping until you can recharge the battery. With a mod which uses an external battery, when that battery runs out of a charge, you replace it with a spare that you carry in a plastic battery case. I don't leave the house without my mod and two spare charged batteries in a battery case.
Another thing to consider is, the internal non-replaceable batteries are LiPo batteries, which are not safe chemistry. When they go into thermal runaway, they burst into flames. IMR/INR replaceable batteries are safe chemistry; about all that they do when they go into thermal runaway is vent hot gas.
I'm also not of fan of on-board battery charging of internal battery devices. The USB charging connections tend to wear out over time and can prove to be dangerous.
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Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries
The main benefit of using a mod which uses replaceable batteries is, when the battery dies in a year or two (about 300 charge cycles), instead of replacing an entire mod ($50 - $100) all you need to replace is a $6 battery. Of course, you need to also purchase a decent box battery charger for about $20.
If your mod with an internal battery runs out of a charge, you're finished vaping until you can recharge the battery. With a mod which uses an external battery, when that battery runs out of a charge, you replace it with a spare that you carry in a plastic battery case. I don't leave the house without my mod and two spare charged batteries in a battery case.
Another thing to consider is, the internal non-replaceable batteries are LiPo batteries, which are not safe chemistry. When they go into thermal runaway, they burst into flames. IMR/INR replaceable batteries are safe chemistry; about all that they do when they go into thermal runaway is vent hot gas.
I'm also not of fan of on-board battery charging of internal battery devices. The USB charging connections tend to wear out over time and can prove to be dangerous.
Battery Basics for Mods
Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries
There's nothing wrong with them, meaning they work just fine, However, In addition to the point @Susan~S raises, they are built with LiPo batteries, which I don't like as they are not as safe as the IMR type normally used in removable battery mods. Like Susan, I prefer removables.
Opposite here, I now use built in batteries. Though one could ague that the Radius is not that. I just want super simple plug it in and it charges. Started with the MVP2 and being able to use it to charge my phone. It was a slow thing, just one day noticed I wasn't using mods that had removable chargeable batteries (Radius does but again...). And I have some pretty ones too 
The Radius can be used as an internal battery mod or as an external battery mod. I'm familiar with them although I don't own one. I'm pretty sure if I owned a Radius (I own 3 Provari's) that I would remove the batteries to charge them, for the reasons that I've already outlined.
The Radius can be used as an internal battery mod or as an external battery mod. I'm familiar with them although I don't own one. I'm pretty sure if I owned a Radius (I own 3 Provari's) that I would remove the batteries to charge them, for the reasons that I've already outlined.
Yup that they are. When the battery goes I can just replace it. Been using the DNA Shark but as soon as the Radius came out I was on it faster then a duck on a bug. Love it, great device. But then all the stuff they do it great. All ready dropped it 3 times still working
At one point it was an economical option.
Nowadays it seems to be becoming less of a bargain because more replaceable battery mods are coming with the option for on board charging via usb
I prefer replaceable battery mods for all of the reasons given above...and especially in today's legal environment. Batteries should always be available, but e-cig mods...well, who knows.
That being said, everything is ultimately going to wear out. Threads, buttons, screens, chips, usb ports...many cheaper mods will wear out in a year or two no matter what kind of battery is involved. I only have 1 old tube mod that I've owned for more than a year, so I have no idea of the longevity of any of my newer devices. Hopefully they will last longer than I expect.
That being said, everything is ultimately going to wear out. Threads, buttons, screens, chips, usb ports...many cheaper mods will wear out in a year or two no matter what kind of battery is involved. I only have 1 old tube mod that I've owned for more than a year, so I have no idea of the longevity of any of my newer devices. Hopefully they will last longer than I expect.
I would choose a removable battery mod due to the possibility of a catastrophic situation where the battery is jeopardized and can be removed. In a mod with built in battery, the lipo pack is soldered permanently to the apparatus.
I'd I were using high wattage I would go with a replaceable battery, however I typically vape at 8.5 to 9 W and Prefer the smaller size mods with internal batteries for convenience. Can't beat the Istick30w and Istick40W on either count and mine have been reliable.
Mods with replaceable batteries are by far the most practical. With that said, I currently have six regulated mods, five with replaceable batteries. I use them all, everyday, but the 50W istick with built in battery is my favorite because its just so easy to use.
Go figure.
Go figure.
Like others have pointed out it isn't the best choice for longevity.
Plus it's alot safer to choose the right batteries and to know what you're doing
with a good mod.
Plus it's alot safer to choose the right batteries and to know what you're doing
with a good mod.
I have no idea, but I just got a mini volt in the mail today by Council of Vaper (built in battery) and love it so far, but have only had a few puffs. It is TINY.
I moved to replaceable battery mods a year ago, but recently picked up a Lavabox DNA200 which I am really liking. I had no problem with the "built in" battery since this one is replaceable for about $20. But after reading some of the posts here (@Baditude), I am now wondering if I stepped into a more dangerous vaping situation or if it is enough to be that concerned?
And as fast as the technology is changing/improving, replacing the whole mod in a year or two might not only be a good upgrade, but not be much more expensive then replacing all the 18650 batteries that tend to get small tears/holes in them from putting them in/out of charger and mods with bad/shaky hands. Yes, they can be re-wrapped, but I am struggling some trying to even do that.
And as fast as the technology is changing/improving, replacing the whole mod in a year or two might not only be a good upgrade, but not be much more expensive then replacing all the 18650 batteries that tend to get small tears/holes in them from putting them in/out of charger and mods with bad/shaky hands. Yes, they can be re-wrapped, but I am struggling some trying to even do that.
Can't comment on the safety issue, but I'd just do what you like if you can afford it.
For newcomers, a built in battery is just easier and takes out one of the numerous confusing aspects of vaping.
If cost is a big concern, a replaceable battery rig is probably pretty important.
I'm concentrating on "mainly" replaceable battery mods because of the uncertain future of vaping in the US.
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