Can vaping cause cancer

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zoiDman

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What DOESN'T cause cancer?

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It all depends on what Studies you Read.
And therein lies the rub. It sucks that you can't take scientific studies at face value. I would love to be able to read a conclusion section, and just accept it. Unfortunately now I feel the need to read the methods section, look at the data, look at the authors, track the funding, etc. etc. etc.
 

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And therein lies the rub. It sucks that you can't take scientific studies at face value. I would love to be able to read a conclusion section, and just accept it. Unfortunately now I feel the need to read the methods section, look at the data, look at the authors, track the funding, etc. etc. etc.
It is sad that science has become a paid justification/endorsement for business and government, which is pretty much the same as business.
 
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Nobody gets out alive...that's a fact. I see no point in dying healthy.

Actually I wouldn't mind that. Death itself doesn't really scare me; it's the process of getting there that scares me, because some of them are flat out terrifying -- in a hospital bed with a respirator down your throat comes to mind.

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I'm really sorry I stated I know the 3 guys out of 8 I know they vape, developed throat cancer from vaping. Nobody knows for sure. Nevertheless, they all smoked for more than 20 years (like me), than switched to vaping for a couple of years, and the guy who died was over 60 y.o. But it's just quite a bit strange of coincidence. It very well be from quitting smoking, not necessarily from switching to vaping.
 

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Actually I wouldn't mind that. Death itself doesn't really scare me; it's the process of getting there that scares me, because some of them are flat out terrifying -- in a hospital bed with a respirator down your throat comes to mind.

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I couldn't agree more. My brother died from lung cancer 3 years ago, and we did not have him in a hospital, but instead home hospice (his wishes). The last 6 weeks of his life were agonizing....regardless of how much morphine he was on. Trust me, the "process" is anything but quick and painless.
 

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Unfortunately, our bodies are not machines, something scientists would like us to believe. You can't just turn a knob or push a button and presto: health is assured. Some diseases can be avoided by adjusting your lifestyle, but most of the time it's a game of chance. I know because I am a collector of incurable ailments since birth. And the thing that ultimately kills everybody, even though we also need it to stay alive, is....oxygen!
 

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I couldn't agree more. My brother died from lung cancer 3 years ago, and we did not have him in a hospital, but instead home hospice (his wishes). The last 6 weeks of his life were agonizing....regardless of how much morphine he was on. Trust me, the "process" is anything but quick and painless.

Yeah I saw much the same with my dad, with that awful respirator. He was in an ICU, which if anything just made it worse. I'm actually hoping for a massive heart attack -- 1-2minutes (if that!) of pain, then outta here! So I'll be sticking with nicotine for the duration. :D

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Unfortunately, our bodies are not machines, something scientists would like us to believe. You can't just turn a knob or push a button and presto: health is assured. Some diseases can be avoided by adjusting your lifestyle, but most of the time it's a game of chance. I know because I am a collector of incurable ailments since birth. And the thing that ultimately kills everybody, even though we also need it to stay alive, is....oxygen!

Yep... with all the addictions I've had to deal with, because they were killing me, I ought to be immortal by now. :D But "public health" or modern medicine just doesn't seem to get that nobody gets outta here alive. I like the Louis Anderson bit about the jogger... "I'm fit, I'm in great shape... so that comet that's about to hit the Earth will just skip right past me!" :facepalm: :D

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And therein lies the rub. It sucks that you can't take scientific studies at face value. I would love to be able to read a conclusion section, and just accept it. Unfortunately now I feel the need to read the methods section, look at the data, look at the authors, track the funding, etc. etc. etc.

And they (scientific types) act like it's not a cult.

The funny one is when they claim objectivity. OMG, that one always makes me laugh.
 
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