There are those kept sane by smoking. And there are those who go insane without their "medication." Proof?
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/02/health/02drug.html?ref=health
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Chantix
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Chantix was the WORST thing I could have tried. Yes, it works if it doesn't turn you and your home into the Amityville Horror like it almost did for my family. 
I actually had my kids BEGGING me to start smoking again...and I did after the wife threw the Chantix away.
I actually had my kids BEGGING me to start smoking again...and I did after the wife threw the Chantix away.
I think the point people were making is that if the side-effects are unbearable, then you stop taking the drug. That has nothing to do with will-power. The whole point of the drug is that it is supposed to take care of those pesky cravings so that you don't need a boatload of will-power, but it accomplishes this by blocking dopamine receptors.
The theory behind this drug is that smokers only do it to "get high" and if you take away the pleasure, you extinguish the smoking behavior. The problem is that they ignored other functions of dopamine receptors, such as contributing to being able to self-regulate your mood (i.e. ward off depression and anxiety, keep you even-tempered instead of angry and irritable) and to assist in regulating memory and concentration. So folks who are prone to have problems with those things suffer through the worst of the so-called "withdrawal" symptoms while taking the drug and can't even resort to lighting up a cigarette for a little relief. Oh, they can light up, but it won't help.
So you were lucky on two fronts: No nasty side-effects and you are not one of the people who has severe mood, memory, and concentration problems when you abstain from nicotine.
I don't have any medical problems that cause chronic pain, so it is easy for me to have enough will-power to refrain from taking pain medication on a daily basis.
I tries Chantix without any sid effects. I quit smoking for several months but then got back on the habit while working all day with smokers. I tried Chantix again. I did not work. The doctor that prescribed the product to me was himself a smoker and had to stop due to nightmares of an unfortunate event in his life. I have triead every know method known to man to give up analogs and none have had staying power. Electronic cigarettes I believe are my slavation.
I have no first-hand experience of Chantix, but a friend of mine quit with it, so it certainly works for some people.
That said, you have to weigh the pros vs the cons. It is my firm belief, that we don't yet have full knowledge of how tobacco addiction works (i.e. nicotine vs MAOIs and possibly other substances) so messing with your brain chemistry some more sounds to me like a last resort. It seems MUCH preferable to stick with e-cigs/snus/snuff, since they a) work and b) are proven to be safe.
That said, you have to weigh the pros vs the cons. It is my firm belief, that we don't yet have full knowledge of how tobacco addiction works (i.e. nicotine vs MAOIs and possibly other substances) so messing with your brain chemistry some more sounds to me like a last resort. It seems MUCH preferable to stick with e-cigs/snus/snuff, since they a) work and b) are proven to be safe.
I tried Chantix on two different occasions. Everyone is different and the results are all across the board, but for me it was the worst 2 attempts I ever made in quitting. I didn't get depressed or suicidal at all, but I had some of the wildest dreams (what little bit I actually slept). The first time around I stuck with it for a month, the second I only lasted two weeks. I never really quit smoking at all for more that a couple of days. The bigger problem for me wasn't the fact that I was dead tired all the time from lack of sleep, but that it really bound me up-if you know what I'm sayin... Thankfully, I got mine for free as my company paid for it both times. I would have been really cranky if I hadn't slept or had a BM for weeks and was out 100 dugs to boot! 
My husband tried Chantix a few months ago. It was truly awful. I wouldn't say he became depressed, but just extremely irritable and grumpy, even confrontational. Frankly, he was an ...... for those weeks he was on it. It did help decrease his urge to smoke a little. After a few weeks he quit taking it, as he knew something wasn't right. Thank God!
It is well known that any number of factors, stress included, can trigger the first incidence of an auto-immune flare. I wouldn't be so quick to rule out that a medication with many known horrible side effects might have stressed the system and triggered initial onset for the poster to whom you're responding.
Especially with auto-immune disease, correlation of symptoms across patients doesn't always result in sound conclusions.
Jan
My doctor has twice now tried to get me to take Chantix. Both times I have told him, since I had become suicidal on Wellbutran/Zyban, that I didn't think it was a very good idea for me. He continues to insist that they are not the same and that Chantix does not have that side effect. I think I may change doctors...
The suicidal thoughts from Zyban were really weird. It was like I was another person watching myself contemplate suicide. I could not control or even influence my other self. Absolutely terrifying.
The suicidal thoughts from Zyban were really weird. It was like I was another person watching myself contemplate suicide. I could not control or even influence my other self. Absolutely terrifying.
Oh c'mon. You don't seriously expect us to believe Big Pharma would actually put a product on the market that has horrific side effects, do you? Surely Big Pharma wouldn't do such a thing and has never done such a thing before.
and on the chantix front, here's a little news tidbit for you all.
GBI: Alcohol, Anti-Smoking Drug Helped Cause Walker's Suicide | 13WMAZ.com | Macon, GA
Pretty interesting stuff.
GBI: Alcohol, Anti-Smoking Drug Helped Cause Walker's Suicide | 13WMAZ.com | Macon, GA
Pretty interesting stuff.
This looks like an old, inactive thread but I'll add my 2 cents.
I took Chantix the first time and I think it helped me quit for about 6 months. I was really pumped to quit though. I think I would have without the pills anyway. I did get the bad dreams and a little bit of indigestion. I did start feeling really weird though. I've never had depression, but my ex-wife did. I could never understand where she was coming from, but I was beginning to understand.
I quit the Chantix after a couple of months but kept non smoking for a longer period. Anyway, I started again. After a few months I decided to quit again. I still had the Chantix prescription so bought some more. This time it didn't do anything in the week I took it other than the weird feeling coming back. I quit taking it immediately. I figured it was better to smoke than ruin my life with the pills.
I procrastinated quitting for awhile longer. I went to my local pharmacy and asked if Nicotrol (little plastic cigarette holder looking things that you insert a nicotine cartridge into) was available and if it was over-the-counter or prescription. My mom had given me some of these after she had quit due to health reasons. I think they also helped me in my first quasi-attempt in quitting.
The pharmacist said they were in-fact prescription and they cost over $100 per month. They quit stocking them because they were that expensive. I was a little miffed that they also required a doc prescription. The pharmacist suggested I check out the e-cig world as she had known some people who'd had success with them.
The rest is good! It's only been 5 weeks smoke-free, but I don't even want to smoke now. I haven't got off my nicotine addiction, but the smoke, tar, burned stinking clothing and vehicle, smelly breath, etc., etc. is toast.
It will be an absolute travesty if e-cigs are banned or regulated. One thing I do know is I'll never take or recommend Chantix to anyone I know. The stuff is wicked, just wicked.
I took Chantix the first time and I think it helped me quit for about 6 months. I was really pumped to quit though. I think I would have without the pills anyway. I did get the bad dreams and a little bit of indigestion. I did start feeling really weird though. I've never had depression, but my ex-wife did. I could never understand where she was coming from, but I was beginning to understand.
I quit the Chantix after a couple of months but kept non smoking for a longer period. Anyway, I started again. After a few months I decided to quit again. I still had the Chantix prescription so bought some more. This time it didn't do anything in the week I took it other than the weird feeling coming back. I quit taking it immediately. I figured it was better to smoke than ruin my life with the pills.
I procrastinated quitting for awhile longer. I went to my local pharmacy and asked if Nicotrol (little plastic cigarette holder looking things that you insert a nicotine cartridge into) was available and if it was over-the-counter or prescription. My mom had given me some of these after she had quit due to health reasons. I think they also helped me in my first quasi-attempt in quitting.
The pharmacist said they were in-fact prescription and they cost over $100 per month. They quit stocking them because they were that expensive. I was a little miffed that they also required a doc prescription. The pharmacist suggested I check out the e-cig world as she had known some people who'd had success with them.
The rest is good! It's only been 5 weeks smoke-free, but I don't even want to smoke now. I haven't got off my nicotine addiction, but the smoke, tar, burned stinking clothing and vehicle, smelly breath, etc., etc. is toast.
It will be an absolute travesty if e-cigs are banned or regulated. One thing I do know is I'll never take or recommend Chantix to anyone I know. The stuff is wicked, just wicked.
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