City of Poway CA considers defining vaping as smoking - Tues meeting (cross posted)

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  1. City of Poway considers defining vaping as smoking for purposes of their Clean Air ord. It's not clear if this would also ban outdoor vaping in parks, etc.:

    m . utsandiego . com/news/2014/jan/31/tp-poway-may-join-cities-snuffing-e-cigarettes

    If you go to the meeting, you might want to be prepared to meet this guy: www . pomeradonews .com/2014/01/31/lippman-medical-truths-concerning-e-cigarettes-and-hookahs
     
  2. DrMA

    DrMA Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    That second link should be broken, IMO. there's nothing but lies, deceit, and abolitionist propaganda in what that guy says.
     
  3. rothenbj

    rothenbj Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    That second link should be commented on.
     
  4. 2coils

    2coils Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    IMO any junk articles should be broken as to not give any extra google joose!!!
     
  5. 2coils

    2coils Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    The last thing we want IMO is to be spoken in the same breath as hookah. Not good either, as we all know the two are not even close to being similar.
     
  6. I decided to give your POV the benefit of the doubt. That said, there's an argument for preserving junk-laden links in certain other forums besides media, which may be why the policy isn't posted/enforced site-wide.
     
  7. classwife

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    This actually applies to anywhere in the Forum. Please break your links, thank you.

    http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ecf-forum-rules/51178-forum-rules.html

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    b. Posting live links [1] to propaganda against e-cigarettes, low-quality unresearched or slanted press articles, or materials containing deliberate attacks on e-cigarettes unsupportable by independent evidence, is not allowed. Links should be broken by placing spaces in the domain part of the URL, or any other method that prevents browsers or search engines seeing a link [2].

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  8. dr g

    dr g Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    They are actually VERY similar in action however, there is a huge difference as far as risk, that being the presence of whole tobacco substrate and burning coal heat source. Vaping eliminates both of those.
     
  9. Eric A. Blair

    Eric A. Blair Senior Member ECF Veteran

    That is what you are going to get everywhere e-cig laws are proposed: big Pharma funded front groups who are pimping themselves out for cash. They make six figures peddling lies, you don't expect them to take a real job at Walmart as a cashier do you?

    You can only hope that the elected public servants you are talking to are just normal people who care about their constituents. And not big Government junkies Who need future MSA tobacco settlement payments to pay for general state expenditures.
     
  10. Eric A. Blair

    Eric A. Blair Senior Member ECF Veteran

    If you ever have to follow one of these special interest mouthpieces in a legislative hearing, you can always try the Vincent Laguardia Gambini defense from the movie "My Cousin Vinny". Sleep through the lies and ignore them and then say: "everything that guy just said is bull....! Thank you.":)
     
  11. Uma

    Uma Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    The ALA made a huge statement about being extremely worried about the H pens addicting the newbies, but everyone knows the H pens are mostly found in Zero Nic plus the fact that nic, when chosen, is delivered at lower levels that is hard to become addicted to. By changing their scare tactics to the real H's, the water based H's, they confuse the issue, confuse the councils. Slick.
     
  12. zoiDman

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  13. Uma

    Uma Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Follow the money....
     
  14. DrMA

    DrMA Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Unanimous vote... Wow! Another city annexed to the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia :facepalm:
     
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