clone or no clone
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they are so much more because of the difference in manufacturing costs. they can bang out clones all day in a chinese sweatshop for next to nothing. an original manufactured in, say, the us costs a ton more due to higher wages and such. thats why so many industries these day outsource.
I agree that you are. Someday it will be very difficult to buy quality vaping gear. Original Manufacturers cant compete with the cheap asian labor. So why even bother to make new things.
Witness the fall of a innovator and giant who also invented the drip tip as we know it
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/super-t-manufacturing/641654-going-out-business-super-t-storewide-sale-save-up-50-a.html
This is an hot topic....i don't want to explain my opinion to do not generate a flame.....but i think tree things about....
Originals are expensive but original, no fake......and a well made product rarely is cheap
If someone want to copy a thing that is not registered can do but....if he copy the logo is falsification not only a copy....he sells this things with the blasone of the original
Ok most people buy clones because the original are expensive, sometimes these buy a lot of things more than necessary with the same money of one well made original, and there are some original chinese unexpensive that works well but have no logos and are not "hype"......but they want the original clone.
Originals are expensive but original, no fake......and a well made product rarely is cheap
If someone want to copy a thing that is not registered can do but....if he copy the logo is falsification not only a copy....he sells this things with the blasone of the original
Ok most people buy clones because the original are expensive, sometimes these buy a lot of things more than necessary with the same money of one well made original, and there are some original chinese unexpensive that works well but have no logos and are not "hype"......but they want the original clone.
Good luck with your Kayfun V4 clone. Mine has been miserable experience but I have finally gotten it sorted out... I think. If the original was available in the USA I would have bought one. But Sveomesto's inability to supply the demand drove me to the clone. In my case I got what I paid for. Hopefully your experience will be better. Maybe the originals will be more available later in the year in the meantime I will struggle with my clone.
The Tobeco one appears to be the best one and can be bought for $20 shipped from US. I have 2 that are perfect.
At this point I would hope no authentic creator in their right mind sits around and thinks that China won't rip off their design.
If I was a mod creator I would create a limited run of "authentics" and sell the design plans to China. Or just have China make me a run of "authentics" using top quality materials and then let them do what they do with the clones.
Who says some of them don't?
If I was a mod creator I would create a limited run of "authentics" and sell the design plans to China. Or just have China make me a run of "authentics" using top quality materials and then let them do what they do with the clones.
Who says some of them don't?
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This thread caught my attention for 2 reasons.
1. I'm new to vaping and don't know many others that vape, so all of your opinions are appreciated
2. Budget..the cost of some of these devices is insane. Really? 200 bucks for a battery holder, a switch, and a heating element?
I'm pretty sure I'll be buying clones until the cost of the originals starts to drop.
1. I'm new to vaping and don't know many others that vape, so all of your opinions are appreciated
2. Budget..the cost of some of these devices is insane. Really? 200 bucks for a battery holder, a switch, and a heating element?
I'm pretty sure I'll be buying clones until the cost of the originals starts to drop.
I try to get the authentic when, the price is within reason. Take Cthulhumod's Cthulhu and Hastur for example. But mostly I go for clones. After my one and only experience with FT however, I do look for a better quality clone. I look for makers like Infinite, Tobeco, Cigreen and HCigar. You pay a little more, but I have never been disappointed in any of them. As for mods, I only get authentic VW devices. To me, it just feels safer, like never going cheap on batteries. Of course, that didn't help me with the ipv4
I guess I'm with everyone else when I say this but it's truly up to you. Whether you buy original or not is a matter of opinion. I only own 1 original, and I could only tell you that it's the contacts that differ. And possibly the firing button
I have 2 Kayfun v4 clones, both Infinites. They work perfectly for about $40 each. I couldn't afford the $200 for a new one, although I probably would pay up to $100 for one. I may pick one up second hand just to have one and see what the differences are. I do plan to buy an authentic Velocity in about a month. I like the design and I do want to support the designers. It will be $115 for it but I feel it will be worth it. I still can't believe clones were out for this one less than 3 weeks after its release and for less than $15.
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