confusion on my new ingulgence

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  1. jgdovin

    jgdovin Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    So I just got my indulgence in and its my first mod. I got a gold, along with an hv 510 atty. I love the 6v 510, its my first 510 and absolutely love it. But I have a few questions that someone else had the same problem.

    So heres how it went, was asking someone about a charger for the 16340's he told me to make sure I liked the 6v experience. I said I loved it with an HV atty, he told me try a regular atty. I threw my 510 standard atty on, no sizzle, no nothing at all. didnt move batteries. So I thought maybe its a bum attie, or I popped it. So didnt touch atty, and put the 3.7v cup on, and it worked just fine with same attie.

    hmm.. weird.. threw back on 6v cup, nothing... threw back on hv atty, worked great. So did the same thing with standard 901 atty, same results.. The only atty that will work with my 6v cup and batteries is an HV atty. Is there some kind of circuit stopping it from working on regular atties?

    Other than that and the slight discoloration between different parts (not horrible) I love this mod from my first impressions. Can anyone help? :)


    EDIT: Also, The website says "The Universal Battery Charger (provided with the Indulgence Manual STARTER KIT) is suitable for 3v 16340 (CR123A) batteries, The battery has PCB to protect itself when it is fully charged"

    But I was informed that it kills the batteries faster charging 3v batteries on a 3.7v charger. Any suggestions? If you can use that charger, do you charge them one at a time? I thought it was unsafe to charge them seperately.
     
  2. Di

    Di ECF Guru ECF Veteran

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    mmmmmmmmmmm, that is strange,

    I haven't heard of that,

    ==============================

    could some of you guys who have both the HV setup and the 3.7v please try this and report here,

    interesting -- veeeeeeeery interesting -- :)
     
  3. jgdovin

    jgdovin Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    Di thanks for the fast reply. Kevin, from ecigmall reported the same problem. cept his 901 atties worked but not the 510 regular atties. I just got it brand new, its a gold indulgence. BTW I love this mod, i think its a great first mod! I do have a suggestion for the connectors, mind if i pm ya about it? Or who should I speak with?
     
  4. Di

    Di ECF Guru ECF Veteran

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    I agree the Indulgence is an excellent mod,
    and an excellent first mod,
    it allows people to use all the attys available
    and find what you love best
    with out having to buy up 5 different kits.

    and for all that -- you can't beat the price.



    thats really is strange with the attys, ---
    I am dying to hear what the guys have to say about this -----


    you can PM to Me or to Mudmanc4 - here on forum

    we will love to hear your suggestion.
     
  5. jgdovin

    jgdovin Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    K will do. Anyone have an answer to my question about the charger too?
     
  6. DMertz99

    DMertz99 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    The lack of a dedicated charger concerns me too, so I bought a Tenergy charger & batts. Just be sure to get 3 volt batts (not 3.7).

    4 Pack RCR123A 3V 900mAh Rechargeable Li-Ion Battery with Smart Charger

    The best combination I have found is the new LR attys and AW 18650 LiMN battery.

    AW 18650 Protected 2600 mAh Rechargeable Lithium Battery - New Version

    It fits in the large cup if you add a few spacers

    DealExtreme: $3.82 Super Strong Rare-Earth RE Magnets (18mm x 2mm / 10-Pack)

    Eastmall should have the LR attys available soon I hope they get in all 3 (510, 901 & 801). It should be fun. And we can use all three with the same mod. How cool is that?
     
  7. Di

    Di ECF Guru ECF Veteran

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    sorry I dont have any 3volts battery --

    but the tr001 charger has written on it 16340 --
    so the size is acceptable, but I am not sure of compatability,
    have to ask someone with more battery savvy ----


    and this - tr001 - is what I use to charge all my batteries.

    there are several posts in here about what chargers people use for the 3volts batteries.


    This one is popular ----

    UltraFire 3.0V/3.6V CR123A Charger
    Charges both 3.0V and 3.6V batteries
    Auto-off when batteries are fully charged (1 to 2 hours)
    Independent charging channels
    Charge one or two batteries at a time
    110/220V auto switch AC power


    [​IMG][​IMG]

    DealExtreme: $11.54 UltraFire 3.0V/3.6V CR123A Charger



    or --------

    Smart Charger for RCR123A 3.0V 750mAh Li-ion rechargeable Batteries

    # Smart, build-in microprocessor automatically switch off when batteries are fully charged.
    # Safe, build-in IC provides various protection, thermal protection, overcharge protection, short-circuit protection, mechanical and electrical protection against reversal polarity, and auto defective battery identification.

    [​IMG]Click this bar to view the full image.[​IMG]

    http://www.all-battery.com/smartchar...batteries.aspx


    Please note ---- Peak voltage of 3.0V Li-Ion will be 3.60V after fully charged.

    this from the manufacturer and seller of these chargers -----
    .
     
  8. jgdovin

    jgdovin Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    Thanks guys, I got the 3.2v 16340's from eastmall with the extended cup, so I will be on the safe side and order a 3v charger. There are a few discrepencies on the site (Im a web designer, so I know it happens easily with large sites)
     
  9. Kuya Dave

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    I have no issue with running stock atties at 6v.
    might be in the new design not sure.
    Also I have to modify my adapters to work with 801 & Cut the black metal off my 801 atty.
    since the connector spins & is too short.
    for the 808 Its too short & doesn't get good connection.

    Otherwise I love my indulgence even if the titanium is 3 different shades.
    extender tube & pt is totally different shades.
    the cap is wearing the paint easily.
    wish it had 4 caps with adapters in it. to make it easier on changing on the go.
    I have lost these small adapters many times.

    & they require a notch in them to keep from spinning.
    But IM done giving idea's to fix until I get credit or Compensation LOL
     
  10. badkolo

    badkolo ECF Guru ECF Veteran

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    yes i noticed as well that the extended cups arent the same exact titanium color but its close enough so its no biggie, also i have had no issues charging all the batteries with the charger provided in any way.
     
  11. Di

    Di ECF Guru ECF Veteran

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    most people do use the charger supplied, but others prefer to go get something else

    their choice

    no biggie.
     
  12. jrjacobs

    jrjacobs Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I am having the same problem with my attys - they do not work with the extender cup, but work just fine at 3.7v.

    Mine came with a "high voltage" 510 atty - this works just fine with the extender cup, but when I put on a regular 510 or 901, it doesn't work. If I switch back to 3.7v, they work fine.

    Mine is also a gold indulgence. What is going wrong here?
     
  13. jgdovin

    jgdovin Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    good im not the only one. Like I said, someone thats selling these told me they had the same problem. I put in 2 3.7v batteries, and got my 901's working but dont dare use it at that high, but standard 510 still doesnt work.. and none of the standard atties work at 6v.. is there some kind of protection circuit you guys added?
     
  14. jgdovin

    jgdovin Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    k dunno if this helps any, I flipped the 3.2v lifeP04 batteries around upside down.. 901 worked for about 3 puffs, but 510 still didnt.. switched back to 901, not working again

    makes no sense at all! Electricity should flow, doesnt matter whats connected. Whats goin on? any insight?
     
  15. Di

    Di ECF Guru ECF Veteran

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    no special protection circuit

    I dont know what is going on :confused:

    I cannot test for you

    I have no 6V kit
    I only smoke 3.7v and passthru
     
  16. mudmanc4

    mudmanc4 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Anyone having any issues with this device, please email me at eastmallcs@gmail.com , and we'll sort it out.

    Although I cannot understand at this point at least, what the issue could possibly be, as it is the first i have heard of it, none the less, we'll get it straightened out, even if we get you another entire device .

    thanks, rick
     
  17. mwa102464

    mwa102464 ECF Guru ECF Veteran

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    Unless im missing something here standard Atty's will not work on 2x3.7 batts or even 2x3.0v Batts, they have to be HV Atty's all the way and I dont see anyone mention they are using HV Atty's here in these post, what am I missing here???
     
  18. mwa102464

    mwa102464 ECF Guru ECF Veteran

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    Also the Tenergy 3.0v 900 AND 750mAH Batts work wonderful and much better in my opinion in this unt, again if your using a standard Atty of any kind at 6v you will bliw them right away most likely and I still dont see anyone saying they are using HV Atty's at 6v or 7.2 or 7.4 woth 2 x 3.6 or 2x 3.7 must have HV Atty's without a doubt here
     
  19. mwa102464

    mwa102464 ECF Guru ECF Veteran

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    The biggest issue I have is this unit was advertised as coming with 4 or 5 different solid top pieces not these little inserts that came with mine unless I missed the posted change and this I dont like, I like the original with all the different top caps
     
  20. mudmanc4

    mudmanc4 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Ok well I use almost predominantly standard atomizers with the two of the liFepos4 16340's that come with the HV kit, and have not blown a one atomizer as of yet. As well as cartomizers.

    The 18350 3.7's will not fit deep enough into the extended tube to allow the switch to be screwed on , without spring modification anyhow lol. And I have accomplished this , and I still dont blow the standard atomizers. Yes, I drown them with vaping liquid, and never use stuffing in the carts.

    So I am not sure what your missing.

    As for the endcaps, people complained about the initial solids, so we redesigned them to have the inserts, this was roughly one month or more ago. I'm not sure if there are any left, but if you like, I can inquire about it for you gladly.

    rick
     
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