confusion on my new ingulgence

[Esig]

Yes we do have fun tangentially. The regular atomizers work in the regular Indulgence and other 3.7 and other higher voltage mods. They do not work in the Indulgence 6V Extended cups. This issue is curious and being looked at by those who are the pros at Eastmall whose job it is to handle problems like these. The regular Indulgence does not seem to have the connectivity problem that the Extended Cap does, vis a vis the coating at the bottom where the spring meets the cup. I fixed mine after 3 tries. I made sure to blow out the discoloration, and made sure the spring was clean. While mine is working, Eastmall guys are working to address this also as seen on this thread. This thread contains many Indulgence topics covering all parts, and the group dynamic includes some levity. Feel free to ignore me like the drunk uncle at the big shindig who has to go outside to vape with the smokers. I am just a customer like you. As many of us have stated over the last year, including Di and Mudmanc4, it has been a long and convoluted trip. Last year I was smoking 3 packs a day of full flavored 100's. With Eastmall's help I am here. I certainly don't take offense to being interrupted by pertinent questions. In fact, stupid questions - NOT YOURS - and already answered questions - again - NOT YOURS - are more tolerated by Eastmall than other areas of ECF. In other threads you are attacked mercilessly if you show any weakness, or can be directed to totally incomprehensible threads that really don't answer the question. In closing, when changing attys take off the switch, hold a finger to the adapter while screwing in the new atty, then screw the switch back on. It will seem loose, but the spring in the switch will hold it firmly. After a few days the closeness will almost disappear while allowing turning the atty. I turn it so that the atty hole faces up on the same side as the button, so that If I dripped an extra drop it doesn't come out all over my hand through the hole. This ability to turn also shields the connector from being overtightened and being stripped.

Well said DSK and thanks for all the valuable info also thanks for yesterdays post and invite still trying to figure out the rules

 

[wenchy69]

Yes we do have fun tangentially. The regular atomizers work in the regular Indulgence and other 3.7 and other higher voltage mods. They do not work in the Indulgence 6V Extended cups. This issue is curious and being looked at by those who are the pros at Eastmall whose job it is to handle problems like these. The regular Indulgence does not seem to have the connectivity problem that the Extended Cap does, vis a vis the coating at the bottom where the spring meets the cup. I fixed mine after 3 tries. I made sure to blow out the discoloration, and made sure the spring was clean. While mine is working, Eastmall guys are working to address this also as seen on this thread. This thread contains many Indulgence topics covering all parts, and the group dynamic includes some levity. Feel free to ignore me like the drunk uncle at the big shindig who has to go outside to vape with the smokers. I am just a customer like you. As many of us have stated over the last year, including Di and Mudmanc4, it has been a long and convoluted trip. Last year I was smoking 3 packs a day of full flavored 100's. With Eastmall's help I am here. I certainly don't take offense to being interrupted by pertinent questions. In fact, stupid questions - NOT YOURS - and already answered questions - again - NOT YOURS - are more tolerated by Eastmall than other areas of ECF. In other threads you are attacked mercilessly if you show any weakness, or can be directed to totally incomprehensible threads that really don't answer the question. In closing, when changing attys take off the switch, hold a finger to the adapter while screwing in the new atty, then screw the switch back on. It will seem loose, but the spring in the switch will hold it firmly. After a few days the closeness will almost disappear while allowing turning the atty. I turn it so that the atty hole faces up on the same side as the button, so that If I dripped an extra drop it doesn't come out all over my hand through the hole. This ability to turn also shields the connector from being overtightened and being stripped.

well aren't you clever! can't say i would ever have thought of turning the adapter so the hole faces upwards. i've been having massive leakage issues. off to give your idea a try now and see how it goes.
thanks!

 

[wenchy69]

well aren't you clever! can't say i would ever have thought of turning the adapter so the hole faces upwards. i've been having massive leakage issues. off to give your idea a try now and see how it goes.
thanks!

well that didn't work. the adapter has 2 holes opposite each other, which means if i face one upwards, the other is facing downwards.
hmmm!

 

[dskarpus]

well that didn't work. the adapter has 2 holes opposite each other, which means if i face one upwards, the other is facing downwards.
hmmm!

Good point. I was referring to the 901 which has 1 hole. The 801 has the holes near the base, so the extra drop leaks out. With the 801 I use a cart with stuffing. I hold the Indulgence more or less horizontal, not vertical when replacing the cart. That seems to eliminate spillage also with other models of atty's and pv's. I surmise that you may be talking about the 510 with the 2 hole connector. With two holes in the atty I guess fluid dynamic laws explain to me at least why they don't spill out as much as other models. Pushing the atty in creates air pressure. With two holes, the air goes out the path with the least resistance. So if the overdrip is minimal, the air will go out the unblocked hole. With the V3 drip less! I have inadvertently dripped, put it down and then dripped again, resulting in juice coming out all over the mod. I removed the atty and battery, blew it out, cleaned with q-tips and tissue, left it upside down to air dry. No harm, no foul. Finally, someone mentioned that the 801 seems too airy and light. I have also found that it leaks the most. I use a higher viscosity juice and drip less. Like diesel for trucks.

 

[Di]

@ DI

Hi sorry to interrupt you and DSK's devilish little schemes but to get back to the Indulgence Passthru what self powered hub would you recommend and do you sell them at EM I looked but can't see anything. Also you should tell Dave they should keep some decent universal battery chargers in stock it's so much easier when you buy online if you can get everything in one place. Another thing can I buy some extra battery units and atty caps then I can put them on my other extension tubes and then I will have three full Indulgences at different voltages and I won't have to swap all the time let me know what you think.

Thanks
Martin

Can anyone tell me if this flight cancellations because of the volcano eruption influence the flights and shipping from China at all?

Thanks
Martin

as far as I know you can buy what is available in the shop,

the button section is not sold separately

as to universal charger it is on the wish list,

as too is a self powered hub for the passsthru

we are getting them both,
but I do not know if it will be here or on the new site in May.


as far as the volcano is concerned,

I have no idea what is and is not affected.

 

[Di]

This thread has certainly gone "off topic" once again!

Back to the issue: I tried a bit of sandpaper to the bottom of my extender cup - did not fix it at all. Again, the HV attys work fine with the extender, so I think it must be getting electrical contact.

Also, the adapters on my unit all spin making it very difficult to put the attys on.

once again,

the extender cup is for use with the HV attys

and it works with the HV attys,

so what is the problem here?????????????

if the extender cup with 6v does not work with a regular atty,
you should be glad, it will blow a regular atty at 6V...........

but regardless of my logic -----

the problem is being looked at by those with more knowledge than me.



for your bullitt adapters,

press against the adapter with your finger as you screw the atty on,

it does not have to be screwed down as hard as hell,

just enough to make contact...

 

[Di]

well aren't you clever! can't say i would ever have thought of turning the adapter so the hole faces upwards. i've been having massive leakage issues. off to give your idea a try now and see how it goes.
thanks!

wenchy

please try to put less juice in there

they should not leak if they are not flooded.

again


dont flood the things

if using a cart --

fill it slowly, and fill from the bottom up,
the wool should be saturated - BUT - not pooled on the top.


if you are dripping onto the coil directly -

the 801 atty should have 4-5 drips

901 3 -4 drips

510 - 3-4 drips

any more than this and you risk leakage thru flooding.

 

[Di]

Good point. I was referring to the 901 which has 1 hole. The 801 has the holes near the base, so the extra drop leaks out. With the 801 I use a cart with stuffing. I hold the Indulgence more or less horizontal, not vertical when replacing the cart. That seems to eliminate spillage also with other models of atty's and pv's. I surmise that you may be talking about the 510 with the 2 hole connector. With two holes in the atty I guess fluid dynamic laws explain to me at least why they don't spill out as much as other models. Pushing the atty in creates air pressure. With two holes, the air goes out the path with the least resistance. So if the overdrip is minimal, the air will go out the unblocked hole. With the V3 drip less! I have inadvertently dripped, put it down and then dripped again, resulting in juice coming out all over the mod. I removed the atty and battery, blew it out, cleaned with q-tips and tissue, left it upside down to air dry. No harm, no foul. Finally, someone mentioned that the 801 seems too airy and light. I have also found that it leaks the most. I use a higher viscosity juice and drip less. Like diesel for trucks.

again


dont flood the things

if using a cart --

fill it slowly, and fill from the bottom up,
the wool should be saturated - BUT - not pooled on the top.


if you are dripping onto the coil directly -

the 801 atty should have 4-5 drips

901 3 -4 drips

510 - 3-4 drips

any more than this and you risk leakage thru flooding.

I have never had leakage with my 801 attys,
I use VG juice, or a 70/30 VG /Pg mix.
but yes, some are very loose draw at first when you start a new one
it comes good after a 1/2 day or so.

 

[Di]

@ DSK and Martin -----


I invite you to be on the Eastmall 43-man Squamish team. For rules see: WWW.madcoversite.com/quiz_olympics.html


what really worries me a great deal --

is that ----
I nearly did understand these rules !!!!!!!!

it looks like a fun game,

hook them, kick them, trip them up, bite them,

hahahahah anything goes,

and best of all,

the object of the game is to lose !!!!!!!!!

I love that the officials have absolutely no authority once the game begins !!!!! hahahahahaahha

 

[dskarpus]

@ DSK and Martin -----


I invite you to be on the Eastmall 43-man Squamish team. For rules see: WWW.madcoversite.com/quiz_olympics.html


what really worries me a great deal --

is that ----
I nearly did understand these rules !!!!!!!!

it looks like a fun game,

hook them, kick them, trip them up, bite them,

hahahahah anything goes,

and best of all,

the object of the game is to lose !!!!!!!!!

I love that the officials have absolutely no authority once the game begins !!!!! hahahahahaahha

Actually we will be playing Chinese-South African-Australian-Dutch-Finnish Federation modified modern rules until Iceland either thaws, freezes or boils over.

Now will Eastmall sponsor our team and can David custom make our equipment?

801 3, 901 2-3, 510 2-3, but I never get to the dry point (the scores of my last 3 squamish games).

 

[Di]

Actually we will be playing Chinese-South African-Australian-Dutch-Finnish Federation modified modern rules until Iceland either thaws, freezes or boils over.

Now will Eastmall sponsor our team and can David custom make our equipment?

801 3, 901 2-3, 510 2-3, but I never get to the dry point (the scores of my last 3 squamish games).

Yes, we are designing the Squamish Hook Sticks now,

I have done up the specs,

the stainless steel hook sticks are standard to the game rules of course
but with a slight modification for our Eastmall team,

the handle end of the stick has adapter threads, so you can attach your favorite atty for a quick vape during play,
we are having trouble however, keeping the atty wet with all the running, hooking, hitting, tripping and flinging, of the opposition players, and referees.

I think we should enlist Martin as dual -- player / coach,
with his countries excellence in Rugby,
some tackling practice would be really handy to bring down the opposition while other players pin them to the ground with their hooks, and we beat the squamish outta them !!!!!

 

[jgdovin]

once again,

the extender cup is for use with the HV attys

and it works with the HV attys,

so what is the problem here?????????????

if the extender cup with 6v does not work with a regular atty,
you should be glad, it will blow a regular atty at 6V...........

but regardless of my logic -----

the problem is being looked at by those with more knowledge than me.

Di, dont wanna undermine you, again I love this product I promise I do, but I am like mudman, I wanna use it with standard atties. Here is a quote from earlier in this post from your own mudman.

Ok well I use almost predominantly standard atomizers with the two of the liFepos4 16340's that come with the HV kit, and have not blown a one atomizer as of yet. As well as cartomizers.

The 18350 3.7's will not fit deep enough into the extended tube to allow the switch to be screwed on , without spring modification anyhow lol. And I have accomplished this , and I still dont blow the standard atomizers. Yes, I drown them with vaping liquid, and never use stuffing in the carts.
rick

Standard atties at high voltage are the way to go if you are careful and dont let them get dry

 

[Kuya Dave]

OK like I PM'd DI
the issue is not with the switch or anything I'm sure.

I believe all it is is the protection circuit in the batteries cutting off.
I do not have those batteries from that batch.
I have previous batch batteries.

After multiple people doing multiple testing it leads Directly to the protection circuit on the batteries.

I have been sitting here vaping 6v with my stock 510 atty.
on the safe side I flooded it *YES FLOODED*
at 6v I get great vapor but to me I don't taste much on 510

I will not hit 6v on my 801 until I drill a vent hole in it After my modifications.
& yes it vapes great & tastes great now.

Gonna hit my 401 at 6v shortly.
to make u kids jealous my indulgence rapes yours at 6v LOL

 

[Di]

Di, dont wanna undermine you, again I love this product I promise I do, but I am like mudman, I wanna use it with standard atties. Here is a quote from earlier in this post from your own mudman.


Quote:
Originally Posted by mudmanc4
Ok well I use almost predominantly standard atomizers with the two of the liFepos4 16340's that come with the HV kit, and have not blown a one atomizer as of yet. As well as cartomizers.

The 18350 3.7's will not fit deep enough into the extended tube to allow the switch to be screwed on , without spring modification anyhow lol. And I have accomplished this , and I still dont blow the standard atomizers. Yes, I drown them with vaping liquid, and never use stuffing in the carts.
rick


Standard atties at high voltage are the way to go if you are careful and dont let them get dry

so how can I argue with that then ?????????

.

 

[Di]

OK like I PM'd DI
the issue is not with the switch or anything I'm sure.

I believe all it is is the protection circuit in the batteries cutting off.
I do not have those batteries from that batch.
I have previous batch batteries.

After multiple people doing multiple testing it leads Directly to the protection circuit on the batteries.

I have been sitting here vaping 6v with my stock 510 atty.
on the safe side I flooded it *YES FLOODED*
at 6v I get great vapor but to me I don't taste much on 510

I will not hit 6v on my 801 until I drill a vent hole in it After my modifications.
& yes it vapes great & tastes great now.

Gonna hit my 401 at 6v shortly.
to make u kids jealous my indulgence rapes yours at 6v LOL

thanks KD

" so leads back to batteries. "

I gave your suggestion to check the batteries to David,

and told him I believe it may be in the pcb's,

it is being tested by the engineers.

 

[doots]

OK like I PM'd DI
the issue is not with the switch or anything I'm sure.

I believe all it is is the protection circuit in the batteries cutting off.
I do not have those batteries from that batch.
I have previous batch batteries.

After multiple people doing multiple testing it leads Directly to the protection circuit on the batteries.

I have been sitting here vaping 6v with my stock 510 atty.
on the safe side I flooded it *YES FLOODED*
at 6v I get great vapor but to me I don't taste much on 510

I will not hit 6v on my 801 until I drill a vent hole in it After my modifications.
& yes it vapes great & tastes great now.

Gonna hit my 401 at 6v shortly.
to make u kids jealous my indulgence rapes yours at 6v LOL

Im sure its the battys too.. what batts brand are you using that is working with 6v and reg atty?

 

[jgdovin]

Im sure its the battys too.. what batts brand are you using that is working with 6v and reg atty?

He just showed me a video, he is using same batteries as the ones that came with my indulgence, but it looks like there is either a fault in this batch, or they have changed the way the batteries are manufactured and have modified the PCB in them. This is unfortionate, I hate to go order another set of 16340's and have same problem.

 

[Kuya Dave]

LoL.
Yup Same batts that came with my extender tube.
I need to edit the beginning of that video before posting up on here LOL.
Or retake the video for the 30th time.

I Killed my first atty..... YES MY FIRST ATTY 1yr old envy bliss 401 During making this Video LOL...

I'm sad..

 

[jgdovin]

Ok I took the voltmeter to my 3.2v LifeP04 batteries. My findings are kind of odd I think.

I charged them and immediately took them to the voltmeter, each one measured in at 2.6/2.7v freshly charged. I then put them in extender tube and pressed button while measuring the voltage and got 5.9/6.0v. Now im no electronics genious, but i believe 2.6 + 2.6 = 5.2 not 5.9v, this seems kind of odd to me first off, plus the fact they are .6v lower freshly charged then they say they are.

Anyway, I dont know what to make of this just yet, but I figured I would post my findings for someone else to interpret.

 

[Kuya Dave]

mine get 3.3v each
and 6.6v combined in tube.
you may not be pressing hard enough on the plate or something.
Very odd. but ya 6.6 is steep.

Has to be protection circuit preventing
first charge on the Indulgence charger.
wonders if thats part of the cause but unknown yet.

Waiting for someone to hook me up on a good deal on HV atties. LOL.