Cupti By Kangertech

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There have been rumors based on various Facebook posts hinting at the existence of the project over the last few months that Kangertech has been working on the successor to Nebox for quite some time that would address its shortcomings. Today it was announced that the cupti by Kangertech will be that successor and is scheduled for release around the 4th of July.

Sporting a Top Mounted Control Panel, TFTA Airflow Design, Replaceable Pyrex tank, 5.0ml Capacity, Leak-Free Design, 75w Output, Temperature Control, Replaceable 18650 with a hassle free flip open door, an optional CL Style RBA, and a durable Surface Furnishing this version promises to address many of the shortcomings of the original Nebox. It is unclear at this time whether this unit will be firmware updateable and the Temperature Contol appears to support NI200, Ti, Stainless Steel, and Nichrome Modes.

cupti is reported as 82mm h x 56mm w x 22.8mm d on 3f but this may be in error and is unconfirmed at this point.

 

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The All-In-One market is certainly heating up lately. Plato, eGrip II, Summa, and now Cupti have all been announced and are coming to market in the last few months and competition is definitely heating up. Kanger did not announce that Cupti is firmware updateable and I believe this feature will make or break the Cupti's overall success in capturing top spot in the marketplace but it's 5ml capacity and replaceable 18650 battery are definite advantages over Plato and eGrip II.

The top display control panel on the Cupti is certainly a very smart move and the Kanger name will propel its popularity with newbs and experienced vapers alike. They must be very confident of the Leak Free Design of the CL TFTA system if they placed the USB port at the base of the unit as it obviously cannot be charged in an upright position - a definite negative in my book that upon heating and expanding the juice in the tank during charging will certainly test their Leak Free Claim to limits beyond reason. If they fixed the paint and Logo durability issues that made Nebox look like an abused children's toy in very short order no matter how much care you took with it, people will be much more likely to take pride in it.

 

[BetoMex]

I like the overview, would love to see a side to side comparison with the eGrip2 (size-wise mostly) since the CUPTI seems to be thinner and shorter, even with a removable battery.

What's beyond me is that they decided to change the name from a friendly and established one (NEBOX) to a new and almost unpronounceable (CUPTI [Cuptee? Cup-T.I.?] name. The obivious path would be Nebox 2. Maybe they wanted to move past from it because of the negative comments about it (Leakbox), but still, I like the Nebox name.

 

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I like the overview, would love to see a side to side comparison with the eGrip2 (size-wise mostly) since the CUPTI seems to be thinner and shorter, even with a removable battery.

What's beyond me is that they decided to change the name from a friendly and established one (NEBOX) to a new and almost unpronounceable (CUPTI [Cuptee? Cup-T.I.?] name. The obivious path would be Nebox 2. Maybe they wanted to move past from it because of the negative comments about it (Leakbox), but still, I like the Nebox name.

Nebox was notorious for Unreliable TC on early units & Leaking issues because they rushed it to market before they Ironed out the bugs. I assume they simply did not want that stigma to carry over to this product.

Nebox itself is now a solid performer with demonstrated success, larger Juice capacity, bottom coil design compatable with the subtank line of products that may still enjoy further marketing potential by introducing Velocity and dual build decks and as such may not be discontinued and replaced by Cupti but rather continues and sold as a parallel product line.

Tough to tell from pre-release measurements on 3fvape what a side by side comparison would be and I believe the measurements listed in the opening post may be reported in error. I think you need to assume that Cupti is every bit as tall if not about 4-5mm taller than Nebox (due to board display & controls on top and 2-3mm less wide (could be more if board is on top but I think actual board is between battery and tank where usb is located) and every bit the same in depth as Nebox.

I believe the best side by side comparison you will get for at least a month until reviewers get them in their hands would be to watch the Aspen Valley Vapes comparison video with Nebox and Summa and assume the dimension changes in Nebox I listed above. I could be wrong about the dimension changes because I'm only guessing here but I really don't think I'm that far off.

 

[hazozita]

First look video that goes over a lot of the features:

 

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First look video that goes over a lot of the features:

Caught me by surprise with a video out this quickly. Kanger obviously learned after Nebox and actually waited on the product announcement until they were in production and had units out there for review. This guy historically makes a lot of mistakes but I don't like that he is saying temp control is cutting it off on him while vaping. That is an issue.

He also said it was only 50mm wide - 3F has it listed as 56mm & FT as 55mm.

 

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[olds97_lss]

What's the CLRBA? I'll get one if it's rebuildable like my nebox. Would be nice not having to dump so much juice into it, worry about leaking a bit and having a glass tank that you can take out and properly clean. Also, since it's glass, I won't have to worry about tank cracker juice. $50 is a pretty good price too.

I really enjoy my nebox for various reasons.
- Rebuildable
- compact, fits in your hand nicely and in your back pocket
- long draw tube to keep spatter out of your mouth
- replaceable battery
- side charge port

I just hate that I can't clean the thing easily and to avoid leaking, seems you have to keep it 1/3 full or more. What I would like is to see a time on the vape after you take a pull though... and an ohm rating I can trust since I still use standard kenthal in my RBA.

Really getting vape tongue these days, but affraid to try other stuff that will damage my tank. I like this device so much that I really don't want to mess with my sub-tank mini. Although, I'm better at coil wrapping now... but it feels so cumbersome in my hand with the 100w eleaf. lol

 

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What's the CLRBA? I'll get one if it's rebuildable like my nebox. Would be nice not having to dump so much juice into it, worry about leaking a bit and having a glass tank that you can take out and properly clean. Also, since it's glass, I won't have to worry about tank cracker juice. $50 is a pretty good price too.

I really enjoy my nebox for various reasons.
- Rebuildable
- compact, fits in your hand nicely and in your back pocket
- long draw tube to keep spatter out of your mouth
- replaceable battery
- side charge port

I just hate that I can't clean the thing easily and to avoid leaking, seems you have to keep it 1/3 full or more. What I would like is to see a time on the vape after you take a pull though... and an ohm rating I can trust since I still use standard kenthal in my RBA.

Really getting vape tongue these days, but affraid to try other stuff that will damage my tank. I like this device so much that I really don't want to mess with my sub-tank mini. Although, I'm better at coil wrapping now... but it feels so cumbersome in my hand with the 100w eleaf. lol

Agree with you about Nebox but Mine only leak while charging from dead battery if I'm not vaping off an amount of juice greater than the heat expansion of juice caused by charging or if my tank gets so low that I expose the top of the coil compromising the wet seal of the top oring on the coil.

Cupti looks interesting alright with the pyrex tank, top display, easier battery door, etc. The CL RBA is an animal that does not exist in release yet that I can find. CL Tanks only came out in April and Kanger hasn't finalized the RBA as far as I can tell as it defies all searches I have devised. The assumption at this point is that it will take the form of a larger version of the Joyetech BF RBA.

Kanger however may take something like the stock CL coil body and try to fit the RBA deck from a subtank nano down inside it, lowering the wicking holes on the body down into the juice wells, and modify the chamber with a threaded cap that adds the intake air & upper cl body to it. Just a guess but it is a possibility.

 

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Martyn has a quick first look 12 minutes into this. Sounds like it flooded and spit a ton.

 

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Martyn has a quick first look 12 minutes into this. Sounds like it flooded and spit a ton.

The TFTA on eGrip II Spits a Ton off the DL Notch coil as well but a good anti Spitback Drip Tip worked wonders! He probably is not tightening down the TFTA top of the tank enough so the tank is not developing a proper vacuum to keep the juice from flooding the coil.

 

[olds97_lss]

Martyn has a quick first look 12 minutes into this. Sounds like it flooded and spit a ton.

Well, personally, the prebuilt coils that came with the nebox and subtank mini did that too, which is why I started messing with the RBA instead. With the RBA, the nebox is fine. No flooding, no nothing bad (now). I haven't used the prebuilt coils since week 2 of having the nebox. They spit and leaked badly for me using the horizontal or vertical coils. At first, with the RBA in the subtank mini, I had popping/spitting, but as I got better/more consistent with the whicking, the popping/spitting dwindled quite a bit. I've had the NEBOX for 3 months now and haven't had any spitting/popping/leaking since my first week of builds.

Now, about once a week, I change the cotton and if I mangle the coil while replacing cotton, I rebuild a coil. Other than that, it just works well for me.

I still use the subtank mini base to build/burn my coils, but that's all I use it for now.

 

[drysprocket]

And another quick first look....I'm dying laughing. Starts at 7:40 in. You can see it literally shoot juice in the air. Go home Kanger, you're drunk.

 

[AtmizrOpin]

And another quick first look....I'm dying laughing. Starts at 7:40 in. You can see it literally shoot juice in the air. Go home Kanger, you're drunk.

is it cup tee or cuep-tee. maybe you can help me, mandy patinkin.

 

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And another quick first look....I'm dying laughing. Starts at 7:40 in. You can see it literally shoot juice in the air. Go home Kanger, you're drunk.

That supports what Martin was saying and no denying that juice arcing across the screen! too funny! Don't they bother to pull a sample off the line, throw a battery and some juice in it and try these things before they send them out? Hardly does them any good to have reviewers showing thing like this at release!

The CL tanks have been out since April I hear - did they have these problems with them as well?

 

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is it cup tee or cuep-tee. maybe you can help me, mandy patinkin.

I have no clue...but I'm going to just refer to it as the Nebox 2 regardless

That supports what Martin was saying and no denying that juice arcing across the screen! too funny! Don't they bother to pull a sample off the line, throw a battery and some juice in it and try these things before they send them out? Hardly does them any good to have reviewers showing thing like this at release!

The CL tanks have been out since April I hear - did they have these problems with them as well?

Yeah, you'd think they'd be 100% sure after the mess of the Nebox...I truly love some Kanger tanks, but they really do everything they can to destroy that love.

I only tried one of these coils, and it wasn't great. Not nearly as good as the SSOCC standard coils based on my single experience. I totally get why they want the whole completely top fill/airflow design, but I think we can just look at Joytech coils like this to see a theme emerging. It's really a shame. Maybe they can redo them, but I worry that the whole design of these coils and system is flawed.

 

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I have no clue...but I'm going to just refer to it as the Nebox 2 regardless



Yeah, you'd think they'd be 100% sure after the mess of the Nebox...I truly love some Kanger tanks, but they really do everything they can to destroy that love.

I only tried one of these coils, and it wasn't great. Not nearly as good as the SSOCC standard coils based on my single experience. I totally get why they want the whole completely top fill/airflow design, but I think we can just look at Joytech coils like this to see a theme emerging. It's really a shame. Maybe they can redo them, but I worry that the whole design of these coils and system is flawed.

Personally, I'd rather deal with a bit of minor leaking on Nebox once a month and have the Tank capacity (and a proper RBA (& maybe even a velocity deck)).

That is why I'm intrigued by the Artery Summa (if they ever get around to shipping it) as it is a TFTA system that retains bottom accessibility, leaving open the possibility of them offering a parallel line of accessories to allow Summa to use the older Nebox style BFBA system while retaining a top fill in certain configurations. Even if it did leak a bit in this configuration it, Double the capacity and room enough for Traditional Sized Conventional Replaceable RBA deck System in single, dual and Velocity Style exists in their units that the benefits would greatly outweigh this inconvenience.

Artery is small enough and hopefully hungry enough as a company, that they might consider incorporating a DNA75 parallel version in order to increase market share as Wismec did with the DNA200/RX200 Reuleaux as an affiliation with Evolv would increase their overall market penetration and get their name out there a bit more. I know that I have wanted to put an Evolv board in a Nebox since I got it to give me acctrate temp contol and Escribe Functionality. They also may be hungry enough to incorporate a BFBA system with multible bases that could use All the Kanger coils with one base/chimney and Joyetech stuff with another, their own proprietary coils with a third so users could compare what they like best and maybe even choose Artery's proprietary coils.

I think the market really needs a upstart company to shake up the status quo a bit in this manner as it will be the users and community that would benefit from a truly customizable system like this. Now if I can just convince them to get on board with the program I'm sure their company would benefit greatly.

Sorry for the off topic discussion of another piece, but these early reports on Cupti do not seem very promising & have my mind looking for alternatives.

 

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Finally found some pics at least of the CLRBA. Simple, Elegant and functional design. Thinking airflow may be an issue around the coil, but considering Joyetech is essentially designing BF coil heads without air flowing through the coil at all. Maybe it is not as critical as we all thought. Air must swirl around in the coil body as it enters, reverses direction and exits so it might actually circulate around the coil due to the turbulence and eddy currents created.