For four years, I have been reading folks posting "time to stock up" or "its ok, they cant regulate 18650's"....How about changing the mentality to "TIME TO FIGHT BACK"!!!!
Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
- Thread starter Oliver
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
But, but... The FDA can't make any laws. Only Congress. Am I wrong? And this administration is on its way out, anyway.
I have been in and out of work for the last few years, and have, through necessity, turned vaping cheap into an art, learn to build coils and make juice, makes things muc uhh easier.
I have been out of work too long to even THINK of stocking up the way I would like to
Sent from a dark, twisted corner of the back porch, covered in cobwebs and slightly damp.
This is all going to backfire on these money grubbing vermin ... vaping will prevail as the medical miracle it appears to be.
mark my words ... 10 years from now, we'll still be waiting for the first vaper to report a decline in health ... 1st out of millions of vapers.
within 5 years, Doctors will be speaking about the results they are seeing in ex-smoking patients.
BG is so incompetent ... they should have done this back in 2007 when they had a shot at killing vaping to save BT.
it's too late now ... this blatant attempt to hijack vaping to replace lost tobacco taxes will be exposed.
shortest Prohibition ever
mark my words ... 10 years from now, we'll still be waiting for the first vaper to report a decline in health ... 1st out of millions of vapers.
within 5 years, Doctors will be speaking about the results they are seeing in ex-smoking patients.
BG is so incompetent ... they should have done this back in 2007 when they had a shot at killing vaping to save BT.
it's too late now ... this blatant attempt to hijack vaping to replace lost tobacco taxes will be exposed.
shortest Prohibition ever
I politely disagree. The best thing we can do at the moment is to keep fighting.
CASAA: FDA Deeming Regulations: Release and Next Steps
"The most important thing you can do is to make a call, write, or send an email to your Representative and urge them to cosponsor and support HR 2058. If there is one thing that has to be done, this is it. Encourage your family members, friends, everyone who has supported your journey to participate."
This brings up an interesting question. The smart money would go for it with unflavored nic first. Nic manufacturers could band together or a single manufacturer could try and temporarily corner the supply side before SE from the rest of the gang ride the coat tails.
The easiest juice to give it a shot with is unflavored in a bottle. If the FDA shoots that down then the ugly truth rears it's head. Open systems are going bye bye. But if unflavored in a bottle gets the nod then workarounds become pretty clear.
The pioneer manufacturers that test the approval waters first should keep it simple/stupid. No sense going for anything complicated if the simple version can't pass the test.
This whole thing makes me want to walk the streets at night looking for stray puppies to kick and I freekin love dogs. That's how mad I'm getting while mentally grinding over this debacle.
Seems all this regulation is thinly guised as targeted to protect children, while we all know its to get this stuff all taxed.
Meanwhile we have some states that are making candy bars, gummys and even e-liquid with you know what in it, why is that good? .. but they turn a blind eye when its of course against federal law ... because they tax the daylights out if it ... is certainly isn't health food lol
Meanwhile we have some states that are making candy bars, gummys and even e-liquid with you know what in it, why is that good? .. but they turn a blind eye when its of course against federal law ... because they tax the daylights out if it ... is certainly isn't health food lol
Nope. It's mostly politics. It's mainly because banning cigarettes would cause about 40 million people to vote against anyone who voted for or signed a bill banning a product they are dearly fond of.
...maybe not so funny or unlikely in our future, it could happen
E-cigarette seller gets 3-year jail in Mohali
Sometimes I Wonder if it would have Just Been Better to give them those GD Taxes from Day 1?
YES!!!!!
I haven't even started stockpiling. I have 500ml of 54mg nic in my freezer and a bunch of mods and tanks. But that's all.
This is all going to backfire on these money grubbing vermin ... vaping will prevail as the medical miracle it appears to be.
mark my words ... 10 years from now, we'll still be waiting for the first vaper to report a decline in health ... 1st out of millions of vapers.
within 5 years, Doctors will be speaking about the results they are seeing in ex-smoking patients.
BG is so incompetent ... they should have done this back in 2007 when they had a shot at killing vaping to save BT.
it's too late now ... this blatant attempt to hijack vaping to replace lost tobacco taxes will be exposed.
shortest Prohibition ever
I really, really hope you're right.
Seems as though this is what they are trying to do by having all these new products (not really new but they deem them to be by their own rules) need to be submitted and approved for a ton of fee's, ... they will get it from the past with regulating the past, present and future.
To be blunt, you're wrong. Congress has empowered the FDA to regulate "tobacco products." "Tobacco products" are defined as anything derived from the tobacco plant and anything that is a "component" of a tobacco product. The FDA has interpreted "component" to mean anything used to consume a tobacco product. All nicotine is derived from the tobacco plant. FDA regulations have the force and effect of law.
Would it be okay with you if I continue to do Both?
Stock up for my protection............and
Fight for others Right to Choose
Similar threads
- Locked
