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I mixed up some EM and not knowing how strong to make it I put 1 tsp in 10 ml. This seems extremely strong when mixing with other flavors. How strong do people normally make it?
With tthe Lemon Juice, are you referring to the yellow odd shaped bottle at the store? Do you just pour it in a bottle, then add it to your mixes? Is there a specifici type? Is it ok to use with say a tiny % of EM (for body/moistness)? Of course all flavors are different, but generally speaking.
Yes I add mts VW into my calcs at half to one percent. The lemon juice that is being discussed comes in the plastic lemon and can be used right out of the original container or put in a dropper bottle. Using it with EM would be a personal choice but i don't see why you couldn't. Instead of the lj I use tart & sour or citric acid and have used them with EM.
I wouldn't dare put salt in a cartomizer or atomizer for one reason. Salt never evaporates. I learned this as aquarist. If you add salt to a freshwater tank (a little actually helps the fish) the only way to get it out is to do a water change. In short, salt would just clog up your equipment and the more juice you have that has salt in it, the worse the problem would get. On the bright side you could wash it out but there's also the factor that it could wreak havoc as far as corrosion goes.
I never thought about it from that direction, was just thinking that simple Na+ & Cl- ions shouldn't be so different from anything else, but obviously they are. Figuring out why will probably occupy the geek part of my brain for awhile.
I also keep fish, have multiple tanks just like I have multiple PVs, and I can be just as obsessive about it. My big thing is growing aquarium flora, have a green thumb in the water that is totally lacking on dry land.
Regarding adding moisture to your mix...
From mwa102464...
Try adding 1-2% EM to your mixes
from AzPlumber...
A few things to try. EM as mentioned above, TPA Sweetener or TPA Marshmellow. If you are mixing a fruit flavor a little sweetener and loranns tart & sour might help. All of these at very low %'s will help.
1 to 2 % is a good starting point and probably works for most. Some might need a bit more but going too high will give it an off taste.
from shilohcalista...
Agree on the EM and also let them steep for a few days.
from the original thread...
www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/277816-diy-tastes-dry.html
From mwa102464...
Try adding 1-2% EM to your mixes
from AzPlumber...
A few things to try. EM as mentioned above, TPA Sweetener or TPA Marshmellow. If you are mixing a fruit flavor a little sweetener and loranns tart & sour might help. All of these at very low %'s will help.
1 to 2 % is a good starting point and probably works for most. Some might need a bit more but going too high will give it an off taste.
from shilohcalista...
Agree on the EM and also let them steep for a few days.
from the original thread...
www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/277816-diy-tastes-dry.html
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from shilohcalista...
Tart & Sour is an additive that can be used in any mix to make a flavor pop-- particularly fruits but can be used with any category of flavor.
from AzPlumber...
Just as Shiloh has said it works great on the fruit flavors. At 1 or 2 drops per 5ml it will brighten the flavor and higher %'s will give you a jolly rancher effect.
from the original thread...
www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/277248-loranns-tart-sour.html
Tart & Sour is an additive that can be used in any mix to make a flavor pop-- particularly fruits but can be used with any category of flavor.
from AzPlumber...
Just as Shiloh has said it works great on the fruit flavors. At 1 or 2 drops per 5ml it will brighten the flavor and higher %'s will give you a jolly rancher effect.
from the original thread...
www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/277248-loranns-tart-sour.html
I have use preservative free NaCl in my DIY for 3 years with out problems. I mix like I cook. When you bake, a salt lifts the chocolates, vanillas and adds depth. NaCl does the same. I have 510,901 and 801 attys that are older than a year and I use tanks with Boge and DC cartos without a problem. When a mix seems perfect except it seems to be "just missing something" it is the salt. My experience has been the opposite of your assumptions about NaCl. This can be purchased at any medical supply or pharmacy and I use generally a dropper 5mls for bakery/sweets and higher for choc coveed petzels or other salt needed mixes. Pie crust is not pie crust without salt IMHO.
ETA: NaCl is in every respiratory treatment and Ihave never seen residue on the nebulizer tubing or the ventimasks either.That seems to give an answer about whether it is safe for inhalation.
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I have use preservative free NaCl in my DIY for 3 years with out problems. I mix like I cook. When you bake, a salt lifts the chocolates, vanillas and adds depth. NaCl does the same. I have 510,901 and 801 attys that are older than a year and I use tanks with Boge and DC cartos without a problem. When a mix seems perfect except it seems to be "just missing something" it is the salt. My experience has been the opposite of your assumptions about NaCl. This can be purchased at any medical supply or pharmacy and I use generally a dropper 5mls for bakery/sweets and higher for choc coveed petzels or other salt needed mixes. Pie crust is not pie crust without salt IMHO.
ETA: NaCl is in every respiratory treatment and Ihave never seen residue on the nebulizer tubing or the ventimasks either.That seems to give an answer about whether it is safe for inhalation.
BG, does this come in a liquid or granules that you dilute in pg.
from Switched...
I add 3% EM to my mixes to remove dryness and add just a touch of sweetness (hardly discernible) to all my backy recipes.
from the original thread...
www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/278078-how-do-i-know-flavor-if-i-need-steeping.html
I add 3% EM to my mixes to remove dryness and add just a touch of sweetness (hardly discernible) to all my backy recipes.
from the original thread...
www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/278078-how-do-i-know-flavor-if-i-need-steeping.html
liquid. It can come in syringes wrapped in sterile wrap or in a bottle with a rubber draw spot. Lifts flavors of bakery, sweets, chocolates and seems to do what it does in a good cookie, lift the undertones. Makes the e-liquid more dimensional. Salt....ie: sodium chloride also is a wetting agent. Moisturizes the mouth and makes saliva as well. Good for VG vapors and good for your lungs, Win=win..............I have never seen anyone post about it,I have always done it as I mix like I cook and bake. I have used pure organic sea salt diluted in PG and it worked just as well but is hard to calibrate the saltiness, add a drop at a time, no steeping needed after adding to mix, salt dissolves in PG very well. Did I invent something? LOL
So would kosher salt work fine diluted in PG? Do you think about a teaspoon of salt to 10ml of PG be a proper dilution amount? I am wanting to try this out. I have always wondered if it would work. Salt is needed to bring flavors alive in baking. How many drops do you add per 10ml of juice?
AOKP running on the Gnex.
Fantastic thread!
As someone who's just starting to dip my toe into the DIY pool, this thread has saved me a ton of time.
Keep the info coming!
As someone who's just starting to dip my toe into the DIY pool, this thread has saved me a ton of time.
Keep the info coming!
Fully agree- awesome thread. Is there a way to "dry out" juices? I see lots of ways to give moistness/moisture, but I am high VG and wondered if there was an additive that can do the opposite?
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