DIY Master Techniques - Flavor Add-on's (EM, VW, BW, MTS, ACV, ect)

[tdtyler]

I have use preservative free NaCl in my DIY for 3 years with out problems. I mix like I cook. When you bake, a salt lifts the chocolates, vanillas and adds depth. NaCl does the same. I have 510,901 and 801 attys that are older than a year and I use tanks with Boge and DC cartos without a problem. When a mix seems perfect except it seems to be "just missing something" it is the salt. My experience has been the opposite of your assumptions about NaCl. This can be purchased at any medical supply or pharmacy and I use generally a dropper 5mls for bakery/sweets and higher for choc coveed petzels or other salt needed mixes. Pie crust is not pie crust without salt IMHO.

ETA: NaCl is in every respiratory treatment and Ihave never seen residue on the nebulizer tubing or the ventimasks either.That seems to give an answer about whether it is safe for inhalation.

Bonniegirl... Thanks for posting your knowledge and experience with salt. Much appreciated.

Please help me obtain what you use. I have no idea what to ask for or where to look in Walgreen's for the salt you use. Name brand? Package size? I'm just totally lost.

Also, a recommendation on a dosage starting point please? For a 10ml batch, how many drops to start?

Thank you!

 

[boomerdude]

About the Salt. If you are going to use it, use the NaCl 0.05% that you get from a pharmacy. Don't go mixing iodized salt, table salt, rock salt or kosher salt. The Sodium Chloride from a pharmacy is the same liquid that has been used for decades in Respiratory Therapy treatments and is perfectly safe.

 

[Kemosabe]

My short and sweet opinions on what i use

EM - MUST have . Goes in a lot of my juices .Not a normal sweetner . Brings richness and moistness to the table
Vinegar - best in tobacco mixes to enhance flavor or used to make sweet flavors more bitter .
Tart and sour - iuse this on lots of juices as well . The key to tart fruits and a little adds sweetness to bakery juices
Sucralose - EZsweetz work best and i use sweeteners on occasion to really bring a lot of sweetness to bland flavors .
Vape wizard - I dont use this . Iv never been able to do a damn thing with it . It is a tobacco itself however and i dont normally do tobacco juices
Bitter wizard - Does what it say , makes bitter . I like sweet juices so its really not for me .
Acetyl Pyrazine - I use this molecule on some of my juices to really enhance cakes and cookies big time . Graham crackers are gold with this molecule .

i use AP in one of my only tobacco juices (which the flavoring for is no longer available ) its a 555 called State Express. its non-sweet, dryish and "extra" nutty. tastes much like halo prime, especially when you add a few drops of AP. so if you guys enjoy a dry-ish, robust, nuttier 555, AP might be for you.

 

[Kemosabe]

From pinellaspete... Regarding - Throat Hit

Start with adding some Vodka of at least 100 proof or above. Add 2 drops per 5ml to start with. You can always add more if needed. Don't worry, it won't taste like Vodka at these levels.


From Mr. P....

The only way to get a good TH is to go 100% PG with a mint or cinnamon type flavor. Other then that nothing will give it you without PGA.

from the original thread....

www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/diy-e-liquid/272451-throat-hit-zero-nic.html

also- citrus flavors will add TH. FW Ecto Cooler is one that i can vape at 0mg. i need at least a tiny TH in my juices. most of the time, im looking for huge TH, but at 0mg, you cant expect much. and EC is nice for a 0mg tiny TH jucie.

 

[Kemosabe]

With tthe Lemon Juice, are you referring to the yellow odd shaped bottle at the store? Do you just pour it in a bottle, then add it to your mixes? Is there a specifici type? Is it ok to use with say a tiny % of EM (for body/moistness)? Of course all flavors are different, but generally speaking.

i am sketched out by the little lemon shaped bottle regarding vaping it. it clearly lists oil. but no one seems to be worried about that so maybe i should be either?
check this article out:
ReaLemon® Juice: Real or Fake?

 

[d9mel]

I use TFA sour (malic acid) to balance sweet/ fruit juices

 

[sebdec]

Funny nobody mentioned Vanillin as a sweetner. prediluted at 10% or in crystals (ethyl vanillin). great for most mixes especially tobaccos.
Also love AP, it's a smell that makes me go crazy ;P

 

[FACE MEAT]

i am sketched out by the little lemon shaped bottle regarding vaping it. it clearly lists oil. but no one seems to be worried about that so maybe i should be either?
check this article out:
ReaLemon® Juice: Real or Fake?

I added the plastic lemon bottle stuff to my recent batch of Mandarin/Lemon/Lime. Five drops in a 30 mL batch. I wasn't able to detect any difference.

I'm waiting on my ECX Malic Acid to come in the mail. I think I'll be using that from now on.

 

[dannyv45]

I love the salt (Pharma grade NaCl) idea so if someone can give us some mesurements to make lets say a 10ml concentrate and some guide lines on how much to use in the mix that would be a big help.

 

[paddymx]

i am sketched out by the little lemon shaped bottle regarding vaping it. it clearly lists oil. but no one seems to be worried about that so maybe i should be either?
check this article out:
ReaLemon® Juice: Real or Fake?

Thanks, just got some to give it a try. Guess I won't bother now!

 

[paddymx]

 

[dannyv45]

Anyone ever think of squeezing the juice from a real lemon. Filter it through a coffee filter and trying that. I wonder how that would work?

 

[Kemosabe]

I just use tfa sour. I may re-up with something different tho. Tart n sour is way cheaper.

And I do like that real lemon idea. Maybe filter it a few times tho.

 

[tdtyler]

I love the salt (Pharma grade NaCl) idea so if someone can give us some mesurements to make lets say a 10ml concentrate and some guide lines on how much to use in the mix that would be a big help.

Bump...

Need some numbers like Danny said...

 

[unloaded]

I've got some salt for a netty pot, pure NaCl. Haven't made solution yet, but I plan on dissolving it in distiller water in a beaker. I figure if I dissolve it while its in a hot water bath I can get it saturated. After it cools to room temp I'll pull enough liquid off the top to fill a bottle and toss remaining liquid and crystals. I don't know what percentage it will be, but the bottle will be big enough to last so I can get repeatable results.

 

[boomerdude]

Is dissolving salt to use in a PV a good idea? Most use the rubber stopped bottles used with syringes bought at a Pharmacy. That is .05%. Do you think it might be a bit much, what your planning on?

I've got some salt for a netty pot, pure NaCl. Haven't made solution yet, but I plan on dissolving it in distiller water in a beaker. I figure if I dissolve it while its in a hot water bath I can get it saturated. After it cools to room temp I'll pull enough liquid off the top to fill a bottle and toss remaining liquid and crystals. I don't know what percentage it will be, but the bottle will be big enough to last so I can get repeatable results.

 

[unloaded]

I haven't been able to find the solution you mention, I've seen others mention it too. It looks like 35.9g/100ml is a saturated solution (100%). From there I can dilute it down. 0.05% seems really low to me, I wonder if they meant 0.05 solution or 5%? Either of those would make more sense to me. I'll keep a bottle of saturated so I only have to do it once. 5% seems like a good starting point.

 

[d9mel]

Hey guys, most basic isotonic saline solutions (IV fluid, line flushes)that are intended for human use will have a base NaCl concentration ranging from 0.9%-0.5% to align with the NaCl concentration of blood, IV fluid can also carry dextrose, potassium and other molecules. Might not sound like alot, but it is what it is.

you might want to do some quick research on the molecular lifestyle of salt. Im gonna pass on us sing it in my juices

 

[d9mel]

Also NaCl can be considered a strong electrolyte, so when in solution it does carry electric current by completely disassociating ions.

 

[Nocturin]

Yay! This makes much more sense now. Delving into the DIY portion will be tons of fun!