Do 100%vg liquids has less flavor?

[hillbilly20]

Hi folks,

I used to get 50/50 liquids.I found out I am kind of allergic to pg so switched to all vg.
This time I got 100% vg shadow from hhv and I cant get any flavor.does it happen all the time with 100 vg?

Thanks

 

[mooshi]

VG doesn't carry flavor as well as PG does.

 

[Talyon]

I find that the higher the VG the less flavor, so I use a device more suitable to thicker liquids and that don't mute, like plain ole carto's works great for me.

 

[Caridwen]

Flavor is somewhat muted compare to the same e-liquid with some PG.

I accidentally ordered my liquid with the wrong ratio once and found this to be true for me. But I can't vape high VG liquids.

 

[Vash]

Your best bet would be vendors that offer extra flavor in there VG blends or DIY and add more flavor to 100 vg base cut with VG .Even with extra flavor your VG will still be very high in your own mix

 

[Susiejo]

I use 70/30 vg/h2o (because the vg is so thick) and yes the vg does mute the flavor or as mooshi said, it doesn't carry the flavor as well.
I order from MBV and I usually get a couple of extra flavor shots in my e liquid and that seems to help.

 

[stevegmu]

What is the point of all VG or high ratio VG juices? If there is less of a throat hit and lass flavor, it would seem heavy on the PG side would be best.

 

[hillbilly20]

Thanks all,I use evod/iclear/protank with svd,are they good for vg base or I should pick something else?

 

[IndyJones]

I'm not alergic to pg but i like a lot of vg. since i've been into diy for over a year i don't feel qualified to judge the cost of buying 100% vg liquids, i have the impression that they cost more. i make my liquids approximately 70% vg. i mostly prefer sweet non-fruit flavors and i've been pretty satisfied with the amount of flavor in what i create.

it is hard to avoid pg based flavorings without limiting selection and paying more for flavorings. i dilute my 100%vg nic base to 95% because 100% vg can be hard to get through a measuring syringe but i suppose i could dilute it with distilled water instead.

if i were alergic to pg i would definitely try diy with flavorings with bases of water, alchohol or vg. i'm sure you can find some ecf threads on non pg flavorings.

 

[hillbilly20]

What is the point of all VG or high ratio VG juices? If there is less of a throat hit and lass flavor, it would seem heavy on the PG side would be best.

As I mentioned I am allergic to pg and cant tolerate it very well

 

[stan_lg]

Thanks for the info

 

[vang0gh]

Some people are allergic to PG and not everyone wants a juice with an "in your face" flavor. Boba's Bounty is an example of a VG based juice with a massive following. Personally, I've found that I dislike juices with a high VG content.

 

[Vapeman12]

Hope I am not allergic to PG, I have some juice coming that's going to be 50/50 pg/vg, so far i have only used pre mixed with VG and mixed my own juice using VG. Maybe that's why my two juices are not as strong in flavor as i thought they would be, maybe I should try adding some PG, I haven't gotten any. I know I get good Vapor with my VG and distilled water.

 

[MiamiMom63]

I initially tried ordering 100% VG flavors premade and felt the flavor was muted also. I am not allergic to PG but have realized after 2 years of vaping that I tend to prefer a higher VG juice. I DIY usually an 80/20 VG/PG juice using alcohol and VG based organic flavorings. I would say if you can't tolerate PG at all, then get a good alcohol/VG based organic flavor like Natures Flavors, and instead of thinning it with PG, use distilled water. Try to make it an 80/20 measure with whatever percentage flavoring you are using for the mix. I have one flavor that is 20% NF flavors and 80% VG. I have other flavors that only use about 10% of NF flavors, so I substitute the remainder 10% with PG to thin it out. Instead, I guess you could use distilled water, but I haven't tried using distilled water yet. They are good flavors though and that's just what I prefer. And the flavors don't seem to die when I DIY it myself.

Edit...Also, one thing I learned is the alcohol based flavorings give me the throat hit I needed to still use high VG and lower my nic finally. I do like the alcohol based flavorings.

 

[Baditude]

What is the point of all VG or high ratio VG juices? If there is less of a throat hit and lass flavor, it would seem heavy on the PG side would be best.

Some people prefer a lot of vapor production (ie RBAs/RDAs using sub ohm coils) at the expense of less flavor, so they love 100% vg.

Some people have sensitivities or actual allergies to Pg, so they need all Vg juices.

All Vg juices can be mixed to have as much flavor as a good Pg/Vg mix with flavor shots or using all-natural all-organic flavorings, which I find to be just as flavorful if not more so if made by the hands of a knowledgable e-liquid vendor.

All Vg flavors will likely need more steep time than Pg/Vg mixes, as it is true that it doesn't take to absorbing flavorings as fast as Pg does.

 

[yzer]

As others have mentioned Glycerin (VG) does not carry flavors as well as Propylene Glycol (PG). As a result, a good flavor blender must use more flavoring with high percentage VG juices than juices containing a significant percentage of PG.

I make my own unflavored DIY juice. This is 95% Glycerin USP (VG) and 5% distilled water. No flavoring. The mix is very thick. I use carto tanks and must put four good-sized punches into a carto to make this mixture work without burning a carto.

 

[Vash]

Not a lot here but maybe something you can add to your vendor stuff or good reference for if you try DIY.My friend had same issue as you and makes his own juice with VG base and y it with VG.Even with upping flavor in his blends with PG based flavors he is good to go Non PG Based Flavors

 

[MiamiMom63]

All I know is I keep 3 of the 60 ml bottles on rotation that I make with 80% VG and 20% organic alcohol/VG based flavoring of my all day vape and it keeps me happy. They do have to steep. I do stress, they taste totally different after they steep and go from clear color to light orange color for my all day vape. So I find if I make big bottles of it ahead of time and leave them sit, by the time I get to them they are a light orange color and delicious. lol. And no, they don't loose their flavor at all. They enhance in flavor to me.

 

[Susiejo]

Vg also gives better vapor than pg, and not everyone likes TH.
I do not like pg, it irritates my throat. I can tolerate it at lower levels but I prefer no pg in my juices.
I just get extra flavor shots and it is just fine.
Bottom coil clearo's seem to do better for high vg juices as the juice doesn't have to climb the wick to get to the coil.

 

[hillbilly20]

Thanks all,valuable information.I have no idea about diy and have never done it before.I was wondering if you could let me know the basics or give me a link or something.I am baffled how alcohol and water can be used in the juice