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Discussion in 'Nicotine' started by Way2Gone, Feb 1, 2014.

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  1. Way2Gone

    Way2Gone Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    Nicotine?? Would nicotine be a cause of blood clotting in the lungs? my father was just diagnosed for blood clots in the lungs a couple months ago and I was trying to figure it out. I have seen anything on the internet about it. Although it was bothering me that it was possibly nicotine, as nicotine slows down your blood flow correct? Which would provide less oxygen and possibly cause clotting.?

    He dips grizzly mint, and has been dipping for 20 something years. He swallows his dip sometimes as well. With this being said, swallowing would intensify your ingestion of the nicotine I am sure, going right into your system like that right?


    What are you opinions on my thoughts?

    Thanks alot for any help. I am going to keep doing research on my own time.:p
     
  2. Ryedan

    Ryedan ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I hope your father does well and gets better soon.

    I'm not a doctor. Smoking causes atherosclerosis, or hardening of the arteries and plaque buildup and I believe an effect that's like thickening the blood. I don't think nicotine does that. I found this abstract online; Alkaloids of tobacco and blood coagulation: effect of nicotine on thrombin and fibrinogen. From reading that I think the opposite is true, nicotine without smoke slows blood clotting.

    Hopefully someone who knows more about this will see this thread and enlighten us both :)
     
  3. Way2Gone

    Way2Gone Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    He has never been a smoker, but he does dip 1 can of "Grizzly" Mint a day. His doctor didn't say anything about his dip being the issue and my parents seem to think the dip is not the case either. But see, I am the type of person that likes to go in depth with things...I mean you never know.....

    I feel like when I smoke to much of my e ciggerette my body tends to get this "locked up" type of feeling.. wouldn't you think this feeling contributes too a large amount of nicotine? Also, by "locking up" I feel that possibly this is the oxygen in your body not being able to flow freely as if you were a normal healthy person, who didn't use any nicotine products at all..

    I hope this makes sense. Like I said I am just trying to learn something new and possibly be help to my father. My mom seems to think this is more of a genetics thing that would more like be a issue that would run in his family...but I dunno..who really knows???
     
  4. epelto

    epelto Full Member Verified Member

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    I find it interesting that there is an article that has nicotine, thrombin and fibrinogen in the title. I did a search on here to see if anyone is having the symptoms I am having, which is intermittent feeling of the blood pumping in my left leg ( inner thigh). That points to a blood clot of course. I went to the emergency room on Saturday and they did an ultrasound on my leg. Of course everything looks normal, but it was not happening while they were doing the ultrasound. I guess I need to rule out that vaping is not causing it one way or another. Hard to do, as I am not going to quit vaping.
     
  5. RosaJ

    RosaJ Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    Spend some time in Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos website. He's done a few studies on ecigs.
     
  6. Lucky1384

    Lucky1384 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Could be entirely possible that it's just coincidence. My Mother had a blood clot on her lung in her early forties that was almost fatal. She's never smoked, doesn't drink and is perfectly healthy. My partner is a Nurse Practitioner and specialises in blood clots and chest pain. She regularly tells me about people of all ages and lifestyles who get them for no definitive reason.
     
  7. RosaJ

    RosaJ Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    Your partner is right! Life happens. Even when following all the rules no one can guarantee that we're going to live forever (haven't met anyone who has). Vegetarians get cancer, cardiologists have heart attacks, dietitians have cholesterol and diabetes. There are no guarantees in life.

    I choose to live while I'm breathing and try to use common sense with my choices, and they're my choices an no one else's.
     
  8. Way2Gone

    Way2Gone Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    Yeah. I appreciate some of the opinions you guys have. I guess I shouldn't have to worry about it being the nicotine that caused it then. Its always good to keep an open mind though you know? I try to, at least..
     
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