Does Nicotine Constrict Blood Vessels?

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  1. jwbaccaro

    jwbaccaro New Member

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    First I want to say that I am a new vapor user and I love my Hoosier e-cig, especially the pumpkin spice, liquorish and cinnamon flavors!

    My question is, I like the nicotine fix, but, how bad is nicotine for you, in truth? I heard it constricts blood vessels. But I also heard your body breaks nicotine down into a similar chemical found in anti-depressant meds.

    Any of this true?

    And nice to meet you!
     
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  3. Cliff254

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    Yes. Nicotine is a vasoconstrictor
     
  4. Forkeh

    Forkeh Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Yeah it does, but so do all stimulants, like caffeine. Moderation is the key. Poison is dependent on dosage. Too much or too little of anything can kill you.

    Also, there's been a little research that presents the idea that nicotine may also promote the growth of blood vessels, so who knows if it's really bad for you? It's just a thing. Even found in some healthy foods, in very small doses. There's not a whole lot of research either way. But you don't see ecig users dropping like flies, so I wouldn't be overly concerned.
     
  5. EternalProof

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    Nicotine constricts blood vessels, causing blood pressure to rise. Most antidepressants do this as well. Over the years this can cause plaque buildup in blood vessels, potentially leading to heart disease or stroke. Note that I used the word 'potentially'. People are like atomizers, some burnout more quickly than others.
     
  6. CES

    CES optimistic cynic Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    the anti depressants you may be thinking of are monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs). They're present in cigarette smoke (along with a few thousand other chemicals). They're not a breakdown product of nicotine, and aren't present in the vapor from e-eigs
     
  7. Warren D. Lockaby

    Warren D. Lockaby Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Personally I've pretty well come to terms with the fact it's unlikely I'll get out of here alive. I've even given up on any hope I might ever have had of living to be a hundred & three & being killed by a jealous husband. But there's one hope I still hang onto dearly, and it's very close to my heart: I want to avoid dying from something that wasn't any darn fun to begin with. Man, that would just annoy the dickens outta me! If I could just O.D. on chocolate or something, now that'd suit me just fine! :)
     
  8. damselle

    damselle Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    that is so weird, i was just thinking of the whole blood vessel thing this morning. been vaping steadily for a week and at night i get soooo cold! past two nights i had on, no exaggeration, warm pj's, two bathrobes, one with hoody over my head, socks, and down slippers. i have a down quilt to snuggle under when i watch tv and another to put over my shoulder that was also over my head. wood burning stove going in the basement all day. the night before last i came home late and the heat had been off. i added gloves to the mix. it's crazy! then i had a hot flash and i was ripping everything off fast!

    all that being said, this will not kill you, unless perhaps you have uncontrolled BP problems d/t vessel issues....really. there are many things that constrict blood vessels, so i don't think that would be a concern with even chain vaping. now if you ingested a large concentration of nicotine, that may kill you. but so will a lot of things when not done in moderation.
     
  9. taxman32

    taxman32 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Sounds like you need to come and vape in Georgia. 72 degrees tomorrow!
     
  10. sidetrack

    sidetrack Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Spend a few extra bucks, 77 and sunny in southwest Florida today!
     
  11. telsie

    telsie Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    in the first few weeks after I quit smoking, I was cold all the time. I think it's just one of the many unpleasant things you experience while detoxing from cigarettes.
     
  12. CDnerds

    CDnerds Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    If your already a smoker it doesnt matter about blood vessel issues, your doing more damage by smoking tobacco. Vaping can only make things better. If your not a smoker and just wanted to try vaping I would say stay away from the nicotine juice and you have nothing to worry about. Either way its a win win.
     
  13. elfstone

    elfstone Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Nicotine constricts blood vessels. Yep.

    The real question is what are the health effects of long term nicotine use. We don't know. There's a lot of long term data on smoking tobacco products, but none really on nicotine by itself. That's that.

    Then, there's two messages out there that get me a little angry:

    1. Nicotine is bad for you because one drop of 100% nicotine on you skin will kill you. This is utter nonsense, the effects of a substance vary greatly with dose and rate of administration.

    2. Nicotine constricts blood vessels in the nose when placed on the mucosa (fact), nicotine raises blood pressure a little for a short time when taken in the amounts found in a cigarette (fact); smoking tobacco is linked with increased risk of high blood pressure and cardiovascular problems (fact). Therefore, nicotine is bad for you (non-fact). This is a bait&switch kind of thing - there's no proven link between the effect of nicotine on short term and the long term effect of the tobacco, whereas other dozens of substances in the smoke are clearly linked.

    The FDA is doing its work as if their hypothesis that nicotine is bad has been proven. Nicotine is really bad because it helps getting you hooked to burning tobacco, but it's not clear that it is otherwise.

    But, then, they say - maybe we should ban it until it's proven safe. Well, it doesn't work that way - no new product is held to such high standard. Every day, hundreds of products that may be dangerous, including FDA approved medications, hit the shelves and are given the benefit of the doubt until there is some evidence that they are harmful.

    On the other hand, my newest pet peeve is that products such as these and these which will definitely kill you, are not treated with sufficient skepticism and in fact are subsidized by the federal government.
     
  14. dlsw

    dlsw Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Ohhh, those donuts look good!!! lol
     
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