E-cig vendor selling e-cialis liquid

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  1. TheLizinator

    TheLizinator Super Member ECF Veteran

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    I know others who've discussed this very activity. I just happened to stop in a cigar shop locally where I've gotten cloves pretty frequently over the years. They are selling the "e-cig" which comes from https://e-cig.com. They call them "healthcare" e-liquid. Not only do I think this is not okay, it is probably illegal--no???

    This was the vendor who told the owner of this cigar shop e-cigs would be illegal in another month (this was yesterday). I told him I thought he was misinformed, but then checked this seller's website and figured he's already tempting fate.
     
  2. Darkest

    Darkest Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    I can honestly say from personal experience that e-cig.com in my oh so trusted opinion have NO quality control and don't really care. I wouldn't buy thumb tacks from them :)
     
  3. Symmetric

    Symmetric Super Member ECF Veteran

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    ...and their product sucks.
     
  4. Bandit

    Bandit Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    In your bushes, watching you undress

    ...and they punch babies.
     
  5. TheLizinator

    TheLizinator Super Member ECF Veteran

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    My local cigar shop is selling the kit for a "mere" $99.99. Whatta joke! I stopped in just because I wanted to see the "hundred dollar mini-cig" and was not impressed. I'm sure he was thrilled, but I did tell the shop owner I thought he could certainly find a higher quality product for far less money. He figures since they will "be illegal in a month", it's no skin off his nose.
    Hmmmm....
     
  6. GregH

    GregH Super Member ECF Veteran

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    I clicked the link out of curiosity. Firefox strongly recommended that I not visit that site because they have an untrusted certificate. I'm not that curious...
     
  7. Minimike

    Minimike Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    Just delete the 's' off the "https" and it is fine.
     
  8. Vaporer

    Vaporer Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    Who can these people be? That's a prescription medication and requires a doctors # for distribution. They sell hypodermic needles too.........

    These are the idiots that do us harm and the FDA should camp their ....

    If they accept PayPal, they won't be able to soon. :evil:

    Vaporer
     
  9. Vaporer

    Vaporer Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    Ok....update.
    Check WHOIS: Whois - IP Address - Domain Name Lookup Address 38.100.245.168
    GODADDY / FMS Technology Solutions / Amp Technology is their server host site.
    Read to the bottom please.

    E-CIG.COM - Domain Informationnew
    Domain E-CIG.COM [ Traceroute RBL/DNSBL lookup ]
    Registrar GODADDY.COM, INC.
    Registrar URL Browser Update Page
    Whois server whois.godaddy.com
    Created 19-Mar-2006
    Updated 27-Dec-2007
    Expires 19-Mar-2010
    Time Left 213 days 15 hours 2 minutes
    Status clientDeleteProhibited clientRenewProhibited clientTransferProhibited clientUpdateProhibited
    DNS servers NS1.FMS4U.COM 65.174.200.240
    NS2.FMS4U.COM 24.240.195.240
    NS3.FMS4U.COM 24.240.192.240

    E-CIG.COM - Geo Information
    IP Address 38.100.245.168
    Host e-cig.com
    Location US US, United States
    City -, - -
    Organization FMS Technology Solutions / Amp Technology
    ISP Performance Systems International
    AS Number AS40142
    Latitude 38°00'00" North
    Longitude 97°00'00" West
    Distance 9208.78 km (5722.07 miles)

    FMS Technology Solutions / Amp Technology
    Address: 1650 Des Peres Rd Ste 125
    Saint Louis, MO,
    63131-1899
    Phone: 314-822-3901
    Fax: 314-821-2464

    It appears this is just the host. Wonder if they realize of this infraction of the law.
    A true and trusted e cig company would NEVER do this.

    Vaporer
     
  10. Vaporer

    Vaporer Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    Letter Sent to PayPal

    Since PayPal has decided to stop user accounts that sell e cig, liquids and products BEFORE the FDA has even had their hearing on the subject, how can you possibly let
    Electronic Cigarette | E-Cigarette | E-Liquid - Healthcare E-Liq
    sell e cigs with Cialis? A prescription medication, which can only be issued by a doctor and make the claims they do on their website?

    I do not approve of PayPals decision on this matter, but sites like this can ruin what can, could and someday be a large market to people seeking an alternative to known cancer causing cigarettes.

    Let PayPals injustice rain where it should.
     
  11. halfevildruid

    halfevildruid Super Member ECF Veteran

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    i think they are china or india
     
  12. DisMan

    DisMan Super Member ECF Veteran

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    ROFLMAO. Now that was funny.
     
  13. Minimike

    Minimike Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    So nice of you. PayPal inconveniences you so you want them to inconvenience someone else to 'get even.'
     
  14. Vaporer

    Vaporer Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    I'm not getting even or trying to.
    PayPal made the decision to stop trade with reputable e cig suppliers. It's going to be a tough fight to keep a ban from happening. A supplier that sells a prescription drug in e juice, making the claims they do that the FDA has already mentioned as taboo can in no way help our cause. Sites like that ARE breaking the law and associated with our cause. We need to be responsible adults and citizens.

    I'm amazed at the attitude you took with my post. Do you have stock in this company?
    Whats next, vaping with Vallium, puffing with Prozac? Please enlighten me.

    PayPal inconveniences me? There are still many reputable suppliers they haven't stopped trade with. It's no harder to click here or there, just a matter of choice.

    I politely expressed my opinion with PayPal. Is my freedom of speech at risk with you?

    I find it hard to believe a vaper would make a statement as you did.

    Vaporer
     
  15. SmokeyJoe

    SmokeyJoe ECF Founder Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    OK, following the mantra that all publicity is good publicity, I am locking this thread in an attempt to prevent any more promotion of the company in question.
     
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