E-liquid suppliers - what is on your label?

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Dunkhan

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I live in Germany and there has been a ......ed law change:
Liquid can no only be sold in bottle with a maximum size of 10ml
Liquid can only be sold with a maximum strength of 20mg/ml

The second part of that is less of an issue as I vape lower than 20mg anyway, but the bottle size limit is annoying me. Anyone who vapes heavily will understand how many bottles this means. It increases the cost, the postage cost, the weight of the packages and the amount of trash I produce massively.

Of course as a citizen of the internet I can easily buy a 40 gallon drum of [removed] nicotine if I want (don't worry I am not planning go near anything that strong). But it could get confiscated by customs.

I know some suppliers don't label the amount of nicotine, and some don't even label that it has nicotine in it. Some label it as 'glycerine' and others as 'e-cigarette liquid' or similar.

Can anyone recommend a supplier that does liquid with a minimum 0.5 litre, minimum 50mg/ml, and simply labels their product with 'glycerine'? The best I found so far is these guys [Removed] (assuming the pictured label is correct), but I dont want to buy it pure for safety reasons, and they have no pics of their mixed bottles.
 
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Dunkhan

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Feb 18, 2014
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45mg is fine too. The best I have been able to get for ages is 36. Not that it really matters other than storage convenience.
As far as mislabelling goes, it seems companies do. I had one source (which I cant find anymore) which just had some 3 letter acronym and then '-100' for 100mg glycerine. It didn't say the word nicotine. For the purposes of the company selling and the customer it was clear what was in the bottle, but it wasn't obvous to anyone else. I am basically looking for a company that doesn't loudly advertise the fact that the liquid is for vaping, it should look like any boring chemical supplies.

edit: Also to the moderator, thanks for correcting my mistake in the original post. I missed that rule.
 
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