Efest, questions

[r055co]

Thanks @Mooch for this is why I point out that eFest is a dangerous and malicious company that puts their customers at risk.

 

[sonicbomb]

A lie is still a lie even if you lie about it.
Efest can bite my shiny purple metal ....

 

[Immortel]

Thank you all for answers and specially to Mooch. This is something I wanted to have written.

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[Shawn Hoefer]

1) Efest is an electronics trading company that sells private label batteries. They are not a battery company. Every single battery they market to vapers is a rewrapped Samsung, Sony, LG, or Panasonic/Sanyo battery. Every single one performs identically and is identical in appearance to one of the Samsung, Sony, LG, or Panasonic/Sanyo batteries. This includes examination of the tooling marks with a 10x loupe.

Efest is lying to that shop manager if they told him they don't rewrap batteries.

Efest might have exclusive manufacturing agreements with one or more battery factories to produce for them but, if this is being done, it's only for the low-amp power bank and flashlight cells. Nothing we use.

Efest's own marketing department told me they make some and rewrap others.


2) Some of Efest's batteries only have one number on them with no indication whether it's continuous or pulse. "Max" is utterly useless as a rating indicator as it can mean continuous or pulse.

If the battery only has one number on it that means you can discharge it any way you want because they have not indicated in any way that it's continuous or pulse. If they are claiming it's only a pulse rating then they are playing a bs game with us, trying to trick us into thinking it could mean continuous. That's unacceptable.

Rating a 10A battery at 35A doesn't work even as a pulse rating. What they did. was a lie...period.

Any company that says that a continuous rating is useless because we pulse batteries when vaping is not only ignorant of the most basic concepts regarding battery ratings but they are blatantly ignoring the safety of their customers.

A pulse rating is useless unless you define the length of the pulse, the time between pulses, and the criteria used to establish the rating (temperature? run time? voltage sag?). None of these have ever been listed by Efest. Their ratings are useless and misleading.

Continuous current ratings are an industry standard and the only way we can compare one battery directly against another. None of the large battery companies have pulse ratings. Why? They're useless because they would only apply to a specific application. The only timed discharge ratings the big companies have are for the protection electronics for the battery packs using that battery.

Efest would know all this if they were a battery company.

Continuous current ratings are also critical for safety. It's the only way you can know if you might have a problem if there is a mod malfunction or accidental button press that discharges the battery continuously. Efest saying the continuous rating isn't important shows remarkable ignorance of battery safety and their customers.

But, tell us how you really feel...

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[Mooch]

But, tell us how you really feel...

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Decorum prevents me from commenting with my real feelings about these companies and their practices.

 

[r055co]

A lot of us are right there with you @Mooch

IMO Vendors and Retailers who sell and promote batteries like eFest, Trustfire, etc. should be ostracized

 

[sonicbomb]

Or made to pay russian roulette with 0.01Ω mechs loaded with BS re-wraps until someone gets burnt.

 

[Darth Omerta]

Or made to pay russian roulette with 0.01Ω mechs loaded with BS re-wraps until someone gets burnt.

You "Trust" these cells so much..."Fire" one and we'll have an eFest!!!!

 

[r055co]

Yeah when ever I go into a B&M and they try to sell me an eFest I let them know how irresponsible they are for having them. All they do is give me a puzzled look. Luckily my favorite B&M actually has a clue, they only sell LG and Samsung. Sad but they are certainly not the norm.

 

[DaveP]

Wouldn't you know it? I searched for "what's under the wrapper on an Efest 35A?", and ...

One of the first links was Batitude's blog with references to Mooch for the data he posts! It's a small world ...

(17) Purple Efest Batteries not as Advertised | E-Cigarette Forum

Thanks Mooch and Baditude for posting great and accurate information that we can all use to stay safe with our vaping!

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

At my urging, our local shop carries only Samsung, and LG batteries from a trusted source. Every shop I go in within a 100 mile radius carries Imren, Efest, MXJO, AWT, or PVTSO.

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[sonicbomb]

PVTSO?

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

PVTSO?

No idea... MadVapes also carries these...

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[sonicbomb]

Particularly Vicarious Transfer of Superfluous Ohms

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

Partially tickling that special orifice.

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[sonicbomb]

eu...

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

eu...

Oops... missed the V lol

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