Ordered a 1300 mah Echo from Cropduster901.com about 2 hrs ago, and received email confirmation that it had shipped about an hour ago. Wanted to order a GO-GO, but got tired of waiting for someone to get them in stock. Also, like the idea of the Echo being automatic. I have a Leo, and like it fine except for the manual feature. We'll see. I'll let you know what I think of the Echo.
Ego, Go-Go, Riva, Leo, iGo,Vgo, Kgo and Echo Comparisons
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I will be interested to see if they work good on the lower voltage ego. All these new batteries are 4.2 v off the charger with a 3.3 cutoff. I wish they would raise the cutoff to about 3.5 because vapor does taper off right before it cutsoff.
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One thing I can add - I've had the same DIY ejuices for over a year and they've been consistent - I know what they taste like at various wattages. I'm finding that despite what, for vapor, is an advantage, the SE Riva with the true 3.7v underload can burn out some of my ejuices with regular A type eGo-t's, LR A's and LR B's. I run the ones I have (SE's) with the regular ohm'd B types (2.2-2.3Ω) which works well, but am getting the best flavor yet, short of dripping using the regulated eGo batts with the B type eGo-t atty/tanks.
This topic is a great idea, txtumbleweed! Thanks for starting the thread!
I own four of these devices: the 1300 mAh Go-Go, 650 mAh eGo-T, 800 mAh Leo (and it is 800, not 1100 mAh), and the 1100 mAh KGO. The first two were gifts. I spent my own soft-earned money on the last two. ['Soft-earned': social security and ad revenue from vaping Guides.] Here is what I think of them:
I may be the only vaper on the planet who does not like the Go-Go. The performance of the jumbo cartomizer and high-mAh battery is dismal: virtually no vaper, TH, or flavor. [I may have gotten a lemon.]
The eGo-T is excellent, of course. I especially like it with the 2-ml capacity Type B atty/tanks. It is a bit stumpy for my tastes and the 3.2V battery limits the attys/cartos I can use on it with satisfaction. But with the right LR atty or carto, it performs like a champ.
I have had an ongoing (occasionally stormy) love affair with the Boge Leo. [See my glowing November 2010 review.] But being an early adopter caused me problems recently. I had the original unsealed batteries, which worked fine with the sealed atomizers, but died when I used them with the new unsealed large-capacity cartomizers. [Mea culpa. I should have thought it through.
] I now have a sealed Leo battery on order (actually a "Vapor Cannon" from otherwise overpriced VaporNine, but which had a two-day 50% off sale).
Other than that hiccup, here's the good news/bad news on the Leo (from my perspective):
My latest infatuation is with the 1100 mAh 3.7V SLB KGO that I purchased a few days ago from Hoosier E-Cig Supply. [Yes, I actually broke down and bought a PV kit.;-) It's Kent's fault: his eGo-T gift seduced me into the 510-based fat batt world.]
This long, slender chrome beauty (also available in boring black) is the same diameter as the eGo and the same length as the Leo. With its chrome cone and a steel atty and drip tip, it could be called a "silver bullet," if that name hadn't already been claimed by a classic mod. It also looks great (and functions perfectly) with my steel-finish Type B eGo-T tank/atty from Cignot. As far as I have been able to determine, it is fully compatible with all 510/eGo attys/cartos/tanks (and even cone). The 1100 mAh is nice, but the kicker for me is the 3.7V, as demonstrated here by Brent at Hoosier:
My own throat and lungs confirm those voltmeter readings. [NOTE: Brent calls it an SLB "eGo" but the box it comes in clearly states "KGO." I don't care; it works great.]
Highly recommended ... and well priced at $45.
I own four of these devices: the 1300 mAh Go-Go, 650 mAh eGo-T, 800 mAh Leo (and it is 800, not 1100 mAh), and the 1100 mAh KGO. The first two were gifts. I spent my own soft-earned money on the last two. ['Soft-earned': social security and ad revenue from vaping Guides.] Here is what I think of them:
I may be the only vaper on the planet who does not like the Go-Go. The performance of the jumbo cartomizer and high-mAh battery is dismal: virtually no vaper, TH, or flavor. [I may have gotten a lemon.]
The eGo-T is excellent, of course. I especially like it with the 2-ml capacity Type B atty/tanks. It is a bit stumpy for my tastes and the 3.2V battery limits the attys/cartos I can use on it with satisfaction. But with the right LR atty or carto, it performs like a champ.
I have had an ongoing (occasionally stormy) love affair with the Boge Leo. [See my glowing November 2010 review.] But being an early adopter caused me problems recently. I had the original unsealed batteries, which worked fine with the sealed atomizers, but died when I used them with the new unsealed large-capacity cartomizers. [Mea culpa. I should have thought it through.
] I now have a sealed Leo battery on order (actually a "Vapor Cannon" from otherwise overpriced VaporNine, but which had a two-day 50% off sale).Other than that hiccup, here's the good news/bad news on the Leo (from my perspective):
- The Leo is the best-tasting atomizer (and cartomizer) I have ever used ... with the possible exception of the EastMall 801 (of the same but incompatible penstyle family). Only recently have I been exploring the world of the 510/eGo. I'm impressed, but it is a bit hollow-tasting compared to the deep, rich taste I get from the Leo and the best 801s.
- I wish the Leo (atty or carto) hit harder. It's fine for my start-of-the-day vape, but as the day wears on, I want more of a kick. The resistance is ~3.0 ohms. I keep waiting for a 2.0-2.5 ohm version, but nothing yet. And there are no adapters for using the otherwise wonderful Leo atty on higher volts. [Yes, there are adapters for the other way around, but the Leo battery (although just fine) is not what I'm in love with.]
My latest infatuation is with the 1100 mAh 3.7V SLB KGO that I purchased a few days ago from Hoosier E-Cig Supply. [Yes, I actually broke down and bought a PV kit.;-) It's Kent's fault: his eGo-T gift seduced me into the 510-based fat batt world.]
This long, slender chrome beauty (also available in boring black) is the same diameter as the eGo and the same length as the Leo. With its chrome cone and a steel atty and drip tip, it could be called a "silver bullet," if that name hadn't already been claimed by a classic mod. It also looks great (and functions perfectly) with my steel-finish Type B eGo-T tank/atty from Cignot. As far as I have been able to determine, it is fully compatible with all 510/eGo attys/cartos/tanks (and even cone). The 1100 mAh is nice, but the kicker for me is the 3.7V, as demonstrated here by Brent at Hoosier:
My own throat and lungs confirm those voltmeter readings. [NOTE: Brent calls it an SLB "eGo" but the box it comes in clearly states "KGO." I don't care; it works great.]
Highly recommended ... and well priced at $45.
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That looks like a quality kit at a great price. And yes 3.7V is intriguing, not to mention 1100mah. Much has been written about using LR attys on eGo batteries because this stresses the mosfet. Are any details known about the mosfet on the SLB batteries?
Thanks, JJ
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That looks like a quality kit at a great price. And yes 3.7V is intriguing, not to mention 1100mah. Much has been written about using LR attys on eGo batteries because this stresses the mosfet. Are any details known about the mosfet on the SLB batteries?
Thanks, JJ
I don't even know what 'mosfet' is, JJ. [I've heard the term and am vaguely aware of the issue, but my non-technical brain has not yet attempted to investigate that matter.]
So, no; at least I don't have those details.
So, no; at least I don't have those details.
There are several electrical engineers on this forum. I am definitely not one of them. But as I understand it, the power button on an eGo battery uses a mosfet as an on-off switch. Someone else can probably explain it better.
The bottom line is that even though the eGo battery itself might handle the higher current of LR attys, the mosfet might not. If the mosfet fails, the battery unit stops functioning.
Sorry to get so far off topic. A thorough explanation can be found here...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/madvapes/127262-about-low-resistance-specific-batteries.html
Good day, JJ
My own throat and lungs confirm those voltmeter readings. [NOTE: Brent calls it an SLB "eGo" but the box it comes in clearly states "KGO." I don't care; it works great.]
Highly recommended ... and well priced at $45.[/QUOTE]
Great review Don - now I'm more confused! Thanks! Just got back from vaca (S. FL BTW) and was all set to purchase the new IGO but now I hear there's something called the KGO. Now I've got to rethink things. Kinda like finding a really cute pair of shoes when all of a sudden your eye spies another really cute pair of shoes and.............
Highly recommended ... and well priced at $45.[/QUOTE]
Great review Don - now I'm more confused! Thanks! Just got back from vaca (S. FL BTW) and was all set to purchase the new IGO but now I hear there's something called the KGO. Now I've got to rethink things. Kinda like finding a really cute pair of shoes when all of a sudden your eye spies another really cute pair of shoes and.............
I too started my vaping experience with the good ol 801 and it has always been one of my favorite attys but the cart was just too small for me and the 801 atty was to inconsistent. I still use an 801 atty on my mods but prefer the Go-Go setup best. I'm surprised you didn't like the Go-Go but we all have our own preference.
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Great review Don - now I'm more confused! Thanks! Just got back from vaca (S. FL BTW) and was all set to purchase the new IGO but now I hear there's something called the KGO. Now I've got to rethink things. Kinda like finding a really cute pair of shoes when all of a sudden your eye spies another really cute pair of shoes and.............[/QUOTE]
The difference in the Kgo and the iGo is the iGo uses the big 3ml cartos and the Kgo uses attys but if they come out with a 510 3ml carto which they supposibly have according to one of the posts you could use your batteries with those. Big difference in price too, 70.00 for the iGo and 45.00 for the Kgo but the Kgo only comes with one atty and the iGo comes with five cartos or you could go with the Echo for 50.00 for a kit with two 1300 mah batts and two 3ml cartos. lol Decisions, decisions, ahh just be like me and buy one of each. lol
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what cartomizers will fit cropdusters echo besides those $5.00 cartomizers they sell?
Yes it is a bit confusing. Rumor has it the dGo, jGo, rGo, and zGo will be released soon. Sorry, couldn't resist.
Today I received shipping confirmation from Mountain Mist. Hopefully in a few days I can report on their 3ml 510 Echo carto.
JJ
Today I received shipping confirmation from Mountain Mist. Hopefully in a few days I can report on their 3ml 510 Echo carto.
JJ
They come with a 901 connector so I imagine your iGo and anything with a 901 connection would work although I don't know the airflow configuration, sometimes that limits using them with one another. I'm not real familiar with the 808 connector or know the difference between a 901 and a 808 connection. I know they both have the same threads.
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Cropduster Echos have a 901 thread. Mountain Mist Echos have a 510 thread.
Cropduster does however have a 510 conversion kit.
so it is a igo with a different name and cheaper price and a auto switch?
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Yes it is a bit confusing. Rumor has it the dGo, jGo, rGo, and zGo will be released soon. Sorry, couldn't resist.
Today I received shipping confirmation from Mountain Mist. Hopefully in a few days I can report on their 3ml 510 Echo carto.
JJ
Cool, so we have a couple getting 901 Echos and one getting 510 Echo and we can find out what works with what in a few days.
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