eGo ONE tank series – CLR coil

[MikeADore]

Is this right? I use 30g Kanthal in just about everything. For my ego one's I make a 7 wrap coil on a 2.5mm mandrel for about 1.7 - 1.8 Ω's. To get about the same thing in SS, it's about double the number of wraps, this is according to Steam Engine.

I'm just wondering if you'll be able to get that SS coil, with that many wraps, to fit. I'm far from an expert coil builder so I'm sure I couldn't do it.

I have some 30ga SS316L wire I haven't tried yet. I figure I'm going to have to shoot for 1Ω to 1.5Ω to get it to work. If course, the diameter of your mandrel is going to come into play, also.

 

[Shawn Hoefer]

I'm just wondering if you'll be able to get that SS coil, with that many wraps, to fit. I'm far from an expert coil builder so I'm sure I couldn't do it.

I have some 30ga SS316L wire I haven't tried yet. I figure I'm going to have to shoot for 1Ω to 1.5Ω to get it to work. If course, the diameter of your mandrel is going to come into play, also.

7 wraps of 30 ga. 316L on a 2.5 mm mandrel should yield 1 Ohm. You'll need 11 wraps to get to 1.5.

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[GranFumador]

I'm just wondering if you'll be able to get that SS coil, with that many wraps, to fit. I'm far from an expert coil builder so I'm sure I couldn't do it.

I have some 30ga SS316L wire I haven't tried yet. I figure I'm going to have to shoot for 1Ω to 1.5Ω to get it to work. If course, the diameter of your mandrel is going to come into play, also.

You might be very pleasantly surprised by an 8 or 9 wrap awg 30 coil. The ohms will be lower than what you may be accustomed to, but the vapor and flavor will be more than satisfactory. I did try a ten or eleven wrap 28 awg coil, and it was difficult to make it fit the body without shorting. Finally got it to work. No flavor advantage compared with a 9 wrap coil with the same wire.

 

[MikeADore]

You might be very pleasantly surprised by an 8 or 9 wrap awg 30 coil. The ohms will be lower than what you may be accustomed to, but the vapor and flavor will be more than satisfactory. I did try a ten or eleven wrap 28 awg coil, and it was difficult to make it fit the body without shorting. Finally got it to work. No flavor advantage compared with a 9 wrap coil with the same wire.

Yep. I can maneuver around and find something that works well for me. I was just talking about @oplholik getting a 14-wrap coil to fit in order go get to 1.7 or 1.8Ω. Could be tough to fit in the CLR.

I want to experiment with the SS wire, but, in truth, I'm fine with kanthal if that's what I need to get the coil I want. I'm also not opposed to going below 1Ω if need be. One of my favorite coils is the .75Ω eleaf.

 

[oplholik]

I am happy with Kanthal, and had ordered some SS to try, and honestly I couldn't see what the big deal was. But anyway, I have some to use in an emergency.

 

[gerrymi]

@pufZeppelin is right, you can milk that coil for a very long time by simply rewicking it.
They really stuff the cotton in the stock coils.
A second vote for rayon here!

I realize that I can go to Sally's Beauty Store...or Amazon...(or some place)...to get a HUGE package of rayon that will last me a lifetime...

But...until I've tried a couple wicks to see if I like it...

Is there someplace I can just walk into (eg. Walmart, eg. Ace Hardware) and buy a SMALL pack of rayon???

[There was a post in some thread (I've lost the link) that mentioned a specific Tampax tampon that contained only rayon.]

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[GranFumador]

I realize that I can go to Sally's Beauty Store...or Amazon...(or some place)...to get a HUGE package of rayon that will last me a lifetime...

But...until I've tried a couple wicks to see if I like it...

Is there someplace I can just walk into (eg. Walmart, eg. Ace Hardware) and buy a SMALL pack of rayon???

[There was a post in some thread (I've lost the link) that mentioned a specific Tampax tampon that contained only rayon.]

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Hi, Gerrymi,

10 feet at Sally's for a buck ninety-nine.

I bought the lifetime supply, 500', for about $15.

Be sure to get the "cellucoton" that says "rayon" in the fine print!

 

[Cheechako]

Hi, Gerrymi,

10 feet at Sally's for a buck ninety-nine.

I bought the lifetime supply, 500', for about $15.

Um...that says 100% cotton.

 

[oplholik]

The above looks to be cotton. Do they have rayon like that?

 

[GranFumador]

Um...that says 100% cotton.

Right you are. When I ventured into the oh so female world of Sally's, I believe they had smaller than 500' packages of rayon, but I don't recall the quantity or price.
Amazon and e-bay have listings for under $5, marked "rayon".

The manufacturer makes a 40' box of it.

 

[pufZeppelin]

I realize that I can go to Sally's Beauty Store...or Amazon...(or some place)...to get a HUGE package of rayon that will last me a lifetime...
But...until I've tried a couple wicks to see if I like it...
Is there someplace I can just walk into (eg. Walmart, eg. Ace Hardware) and buy a SMALL pack of rayon???
[There was a post in some thread (I've lost the link) that mentioned a specific Tampax tampon that contained only rayon.] ..

gerry, you could walk into a Sally's, ASK one of the prettys in there to try a piece and I bet they would
just tug some off out of their box... (they just kinda waste it, no real inventory)

BE SURE IT'S RAYON - tell them ya wanna try so you might buy a box...

stop smoking tampons​

 

[pufZeppelin]

so everyones givin their $.02 about coils wrappin' and wick
guess here's my thoughts...

I like big I.D. so to stuff plenty of wick material inside (holds lots of wet)
the pics show same everything, just differant wire
it's my main build with exception, if I want to lower my Ω with kanthal I switch to 2.5mm I.D.

 

[gerrymi]

so everyones givin their $.02 about coils wrappin' and wick
guess here's my thoughts...

I like big I.D. so to stuff plenty of wick material inside (holds lots of wet)
the pics show same everything, just differant wire
it's my main build with exception, if I want to lower my Ω with kanthal I switch to 2.5mm I.D.

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Nice charts pufZ...

For someone who has NEVER wrapped a coil before, has MINIMAL smarts, has NO "coil-wrapping" tool and does NOT own a drill (or bits)...

Could I use for "Inner diameter 3.0mm"...a toothpick...a Q-Tip shaft...a straw???

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[GranFumador]

Nice charts pufZ...

For someone who has NEVER wrapped a coil before, has MINIMAL smarts, has NO "coil-wrapping" tool and does NOT own a drill (or bits)...

Could I use for "Inner diameter 3.0mm"...a toothpick...a Q-Tip shaft...a straw???

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Six or eight weeks ago, I was in the same boat.

-Had never wrapped a coil, and was frightened that I'd screw up something so many other people could do.

-Had no fancy, or even basic, coil winding machinery.

Looked at my tools, which included a set of six small screwdrivers. ($1 at Dollar Tree)

I had noticed competent, or seemingly expert, folks mentioning 2.5 mm mandrels. OK, I thought, 3/32" is 2.4 mm.
Close enough.

I had just discovered that I owned not one, but 2 coiling tools.

Have built many coils during these recent weeks. They work. It isn't difficult, and only the first one was scary.

 

[GranFumador]

Fifteen second example, not pretty, but functional:

8 or 9 quick wraps of ss 304 approx. 27 gauge.

Then I compressed it with long nose pliers, and annealed over gas range, let air cool about ten seconds. Ready to install.

OK. I usually take a little more time, and make a more æsthetically pleasing bit of wire, but I think you get the point: This ain't rocket science.

 

[Cheechako]

@GranFumador is too modest, he has done extensive experimentation with various wires, coils and wraps.
The Dollar Tree "coiling tools" is a brilliant discovery! The K.I.S.S. principle in action.
It really is that easy and the worst you'll get is a short the first time or two.
No harm, no foul!
Not to mention, he led me into the dirty underbelly of temperature control vaping. (For which I will be forever grateful)

 

[oplholik]

I make both slightly spaced, and full contact coils, depending on the distance I have between the posts. For a slightly spaced coil, I use a metric bolt that produces a 2.5mm dia. coil, and I wind it counter clockwise. I heat the coil with a small torch to set the coil wraps, then screw the coil off, and it makes a fairly nice looking coil. It comes out to a snug fit on the 2.5mm mandrel. Unfortunately, I can't say what size this mm bolt is. I forgot. Others can probably get a nice looking spaced coil with just the mandrel, but I spend more time tweaking it after wrapping it, so I just use the bolt.

 

[pufZeppelin]

Nice charts pufZ...
For someone who has NEVER wrapped a coil before, has MINIMAL smarts, has NO "coil-wrapping" tool and does NOT own a drill (or bits)...
Could I use for "Inner diameter 3.0mm"...a toothpick...a Q-Tip shaft...a straw???
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yepper @gerrymi, just like Gran has said, a lot of things around the house you can use...

it's no big deal, REALLY , that's why I (we) am getting on you about it
can't really do any harm as long as you stay inside the guide-lines (and all this time I know you know)
just wrap a simple 5-7 wraps around a toothpick (or similar), manipulate it INTO the coil body
then screw it on a device and see how it came out, then 'pulse' it A LITTLE (JUST TILL YOU START TO SEE RED GLOW)
if it is a little ugly, tweak it around some with the toothpick to make it kinda pretty (just so it's not touching anything)

when ya get back from bummin' some rayon from Sally's, grab ya some wire, something to wrap around and don't choke...

would we lie to you

 

[aikanae1]

Omg. I took one glance at those charts and was ready to throw all my wrapping crap away. Are they even in english?

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[FranC]

Going off topic again.I got the cap off one of these dang Kanger OCC coils and pulled the coil out. Now how do I get a coil back in the dang thing?