Technology sharing and a business model merger. I think Joyetech technically acquired iSmoka. That's why we have similar devices like the Ego One Mega and the iJust 2 as well as similar coils like the GS Air and eGrip coils.
Technology sharing and a business model merger. I think Joyetech technically acquired iSmoka. That's why we have similar devices like the Ego One Mega and the iJust 2 as well as similar coils like the GS Air and eGrip coils.
Generally, I do the same as you, but those new Air coils are stubborn buggers... really tightly packed. I put in the 4 drops to save me about 10-15 minutes' wait time. Just dry pull priming, the coil took about 15-20 minutes to saturate thoroughly.I read a lot of posts about priming stock pre-made coils. Here's my method:
I don't. And I've never burnt a coil or had a dry hit in either my Nautilus Mini, or GS Airs.
When I first started vaping, I read a lot to make sure I did the right things, a lot of sites, and people, said prime the coil by putting juice in the wick holes. I did this at first, but one day the engineer in me realized that doing that is no better, in fact if you use only a few drops in each hole not even as good, as just putting the coil in the filled tank, taking a few hits with power off, shaking it around a bit to get the air out, and letting it sit 5 or 1o minutes and then drawing a couple times unpowered and then start at low power, around 8 Watts, and take gentle short puffs the first few hits, then I''m good to go at whatever power I want.
Think about it. If you are putting drops in the coil head, a few drops on one side slot or hole, a few on the other, I guess if you are patient enough, you will saturate the wick in maybe 5 or 10 minutes or so, lol. instead I get a lot more juice up in the wick taking a draws unpowered with ALL the wick holes sucking in juice due to the vacuum being pulled when I draw. A lot faster and more efficient than letting only the wicking action of the cotton against ambient air pressure slowly saturate the coil as you try to pry drops into those little holes.
If I were going to going to prime a coil, I would use Cheechako's method, that way at least you get the inside of the wick around the coil saturated first, and i would probably put 5 or 6 drops or so. But i don't prime because I don't have to and you can't make me.
Well actually I do prime, but i do it by taking draws with the coil in the tank. A superior method. *Ducks* lol
When I got mine, it looked like the inside of the base might be SS, its rather hefty, but quite sure that part isn't a "copper alloy." but the air flow control ring is just chrome plated metal of some sort, the same as the GS-MS and GS Air, that might be the copper alloy. It will be interesting to hear what you find out!I speculated that the new tank might be stainless before the tank was officially announced with some others in this thread and in the iStick thread, but when I emailed Eleaf world and asked them they told me: "The new GS Air TC atomizer is made from copper alloy."
I'll email Eleaf.us and ask them if they are sure it is really stainless and report back if I hear from them. In some of the review video's before the tank was officially announced the tanks did have a stainless steel look to them, but in recent pictures of the tank they look like a chromed brass.
I have both kinds of new coils, cotton 1.2s, 1.5 duals, 10 minutes seems to do it for me if I take dry pulls and then wait the 10 minutes, dry pull again, fire it on low. Your method makes sense, I am sure it save wait time if you put the drops right on the coil.Generally, I do the same as you, but those new Air coils are stubborn buggers... really tightly packed. I put in the 4 drops to save me about 10-15 minutes' wait time. Just dry pull priming, the coil took about 15-20 minutes to saturate thoroughly.
I never felt the need to prime before either, but with the GS Air coil being enveloped in liner, I started.I read a lot of posts about priming stock pre-made coils. Here's my method:
I don't. And I've never burnt a coil or had a dry hit in either my Nautilus Mini, or GS Airs.
When I first started vaping, I read a lot to make sure I did the right things, a lot of sites, and people, said prime the coil by putting juice in the wick holes. I did this at first, but one day the engineer in me realized that doing that is no better, in fact if you use only a few drops in each hole not even as good, as just putting the coil in the filled tank, taking a few hits with power off, shaking it around a bit to get the air out, and letting it sit 5 or 1o minutes and then drawing a couple times unpowered and then start at low power, around 8 Watts, and take gentle short puffs the first few hits, then I''m good to go at whatever power I want.
Think about it. If you are putting drops in the coil head, a few drops on one side slot or hole, a few on the other, I guess if you are patient enough, you will saturate the wick in maybe 5 or 10 minutes or so, lol. instead I get a lot more juice up in the wick taking a draws unpowered with ALL the wick holes sucking in juice due to the vacuum being pulled when I draw. A lot faster and more efficient than letting only the wicking action of the cotton against ambient air pressure slowly saturate the coil as you try to pry drops into those little holes.
If I were going to going to prime a coil, I would use Cheechako's method, that way at least you get the inside of the wick around the coil saturated first, and i would probably put 5 or 6 drops or so. But i don't prime because I don't have to and you can't make me.
Well actually I do prime, but i do it by taking unpowered draws with the coil in the tank. A superior method. *Ducks* lol
I agree on that somewhat. I put juice in the air hole too. If you fill a tank, a vacuum is created when you assemble it and turn it up and the juice flow doesn't just immediately run in through the juice holes. The juice has to displace the air in the wick and it does it easier outside the tank when it is new. Sometimes I don't prime them at all, but I always prime my RTAs.I read a lot of posts about priming stock pre-made coils. Here's my method:
I don't. And I've never burnt a coil or had a dry hit in either my Nautilus Mini, or GS Airs.
When I first started vaping, I read a lot to make sure I did the right things, a lot of sites, and people, said prime the coil by putting juice in the wick holes. I did this at first, but one day the engineer in me realized that doing that is no better, in fact if you use only a few drops in each hole not even as good, as just putting the coil in the filled tank, taking a few hits with power off, shaking it around a bit to get the air out, and letting it sit 5 or 1o minutes and then drawing a couple times unpowered and then start at low power, around 8 Watts, and take gentle short puffs the first few hits, then I''m good to go at whatever power I want.
Think about it. If you are putting drops in the coil head, a few drops on one side slot or hole, a few on the other, I guess if you are patient enough, you will saturate the wick in maybe 5 or 10 minutes or so, lol. instead I get a lot more juice up in the wick taking a draws unpowered with ALL the wick holes sucking in juice due to the vacuum being pulled when I draw. A lot faster and more efficient than letting only the wicking action of the cotton against ambient air pressure slowly saturate the coil as you try to pry drops into those little holes.
If I were going to going to prime a coil, I would use Cheechako's method, that way at least you get the inside of the wick around the coil saturated first, and i would probably put 5 or 6 drops or so. But i don't prime because I don't have to and you can't make me.
Well actually I do prime, but i do it by taking draws with the coil in the tank. A superior method. *Ducks* lol
Where is the info on the acquisition? As far as speculation goes, I believe iSmoka was originally a division of Joyetech.Technology sharing and a business model merger. I think Joyetech technically acquired iSmoka. That's why we have similar devices like the Ego One Mega and the iJust 2 as well as similar coils like the GS Air and eGrip coils.
Yes, that's why I do unpowered draws, to pull a vacuum, that will equalize the pressure and start pulling a vacuum on the coil side, sucking in juice. I would prime my RTA's too hahaI agree on that somewhat. I put juice in the air hole too. If you fill a tank, a vacuum is created when you assemble it and turn it up and the juice flow doesn't just immediately run in through the juice holes. The juice has to displace the air in the wick and it does it easier outside the tank when it is new. Sometimes I don't prime them at all, but I always prime my RTAs.
for this coil your normal voltage might not be the best choice
I've taken apart a GS Air cotton coil, as I know you have, but it was a first for me, very thick cotton wrap like a cartridge poly wrap in a cartomizer! I am going to take apart a nautilus mini coil soon, I am eager to see what that is like cotton wise, I've heard other say that two of the four holes are blocked to make it wick around, I want to seeeee lol.I never felt the need to prime before either, but with the GS Air coil being enveloped in liner, I started.
I do dead draws to prime too, but if you pre moisten the coils, you will suck a lot less..Yes, that's why I do unpowered draws, to pull a vacuum, that will equalize the pressure and start pulling a vacuum on the coil side, sucking in juice. I would prime my RTA's too haha
Here's the trademark data for "Eleaf." It shows as a registered trademark of Joyetech. The last modification showing on the trademark was as of 11/2013, so I imagine the proceedings for the aquisition of iSmoka started then and finished up in mid 2014 (so far as I can remember). Eleaf/iSmoka are now wholly owned subsidiaries of Joyetech.Where is the info on the acquisition? As far as speculation goes, I believe iSmoka was originally a division of Joyetech.
They're similar material to the cotton in the Air heads, but more in a packed "pad" for lack of a better word.I've taken apart a GS Air cotton coil, as I know you have, but it was a first for me, very thick cotton wrap like a cartridge poly wrap in a cartomizer! I am going to take apart a nautilus mini coil soon, I am eager to see what that is like cotton wise, I've heard other say that two of the four holes are blocked to make it wick around, I want to seeeee lol.
I'm aware of that trademark as I posted that a few posts back. That doesn't show me that the 2 Shenzhen companies merged or iSmoka was bought by Eleaf. All it shows is they trademarked the name in the U.S.. I would really like to see the info that shows iSmoka as being owned by Joyetech. On there China sites they are represented as 2 different companies manufacturing different products at 2 different locations. Until I see something else, I will still assume iSmoka was always owned by Joyetech.Here's the trademark data for "Eleaf." It shows as a registered trademark of Joyetech. The last modification showing on the trademark was as of 11/2013, so I imagine the proceedings for the aquisition of iSmoka started then and finished up in mid 2014 (so far as I can remember). Eleaf/iSmoka are now wholly owned subsidiaries of Joyetech.
ELEAF Trademark of Joyetech (Changzhou) Electronics Co., Ltd. - Registration Number 4429683 - Serial Number 85677872 :: Justia Trademarks
I read a lot of posts about priming stock pre-made coils. Here's my method:
I don't. And I've never burnt a coil or had a dry hit in either my Nautilus Mini, or GS Airs.
When I first started vaping, I read a lot to make sure I did the right things, a lot of sites, and people, said prime the coil by putting juice in the wick holes. I did this at first, but one day the engineer in me realized that doing that is no better, in fact if you use only a few drops in each hole not even as good, as just putting the coil in the filled tank, taking a few hits with power off, shaking it around a bit to get the air out, and letting it sit 5 or 1o minutes and then drawing a couple times unpowered and then start at low power, around 8 Watts, and take gentle short puffs the first few hits, then I''m good to go at whatever power I want.
Think about it. If you are putting drops in the coil head, a few drops on one side slot or hole, a few on the other, I guess if you are patient enough, you will saturate the wick in maybe 5 or 10 minutes or so, lol. instead I get a lot more juice up in the wick taking a draws unpowered with ALL the wick holes sucking in juice due to the vacuum being pulled when I draw. A lot faster and more efficient than letting only the wicking action of the cotton against ambient air pressure slowly saturate the coil as you try to pry drops into those little holes.
If I were going to going to prime a coil, I would use Cheechako's method, that way at least you get the inside of the wick around the coil saturated first, and i would probably put 5 or 6 drops or so. But i don't prime because I don't have to and you can't make me.
Well actually I do prime, but i do it by taking unpowered draws with the coil in the tank. A superior method. *Ducks* lol
That's similar to what I go through with a new coil in any tank I have. The higher the VG the longer it takes to prime. Sometimes it takes 15 minutes or more for a coil to really start performing right.I'm going to have to read all the different methods of priming and incorporate them all. I like this coil now that it's saturated and vaping good. I've never had an organic cotton coil and it seems it needs a bit more care to prime, or it's just this specific coil.
All I've ever done up until today was put the coil in a filled tank and take a bunch of dry unpowered hits for about 5 minutes until i didn't see any air bubbles float up. I never gave much thought to priming coils other than that.
That didn't work too well for this coil. It didn't work at all.
On the second coil I put about 8-10 drops in the holes in the coil until it wouldn't absorb anymore and put it in a filled tank and did the dry hits and started off low watts. I still got a bit of an odd flavor at first but not burnt taste.
It took a few hits to get it to vape well.
I'm aware of that trademark as I posted that a few posts back. That doesn't show me that the 2 Shenzhen companies merged or iSmoka was bought by Eleaf. All it shows is they trademarked the name in the U.S.. I would really like to see the info that shows iSmoka as being owned by Joyetech. On there China sites they are represented as 2 different companies manufacturing different products at 2 different locations. Until I see something else, I will still assume iSmoka was always owned by Joyetech.