electronic cigarettes in any Hermosa Beach public area outlawed

[wjosephsimmons]

http://www.dailybreeze.com/social-a...n-hermosa-beach-starting-next-month-good-luck

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Boycott Hermosa beach.

 

[schatz]

Here we go.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Now if they would just ban the carcinogen spewing automobiles as well.

 

[AzPlumber]

Well, people want to breath clean air while enjoying bacteria laden sea water and sand.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

Btw for those who do not know Hermosa Beach is a city not just a beach.

 

[Lessifer]

You can smoke/vape at home or in your yard... This has to be illegal.

 

[VNeil]

You can smoke/vape at home or in your yard... This has to be illegal.

You're confused. Or unwilling to understand that tobacco Control has stripped away the last vestiges of your civil and individual rights. We no longer have any rights....

 

[kross8]

Boycott Hermosa beach.

when the vape community has 'had enough' we will boycott all shopping/dining out/movies.......on principal.

the politicians say they wont miss our vape reasonable taxation,, so they shouldn't miss any of our tax dollars.

 

[Lessifer]

You're confused. Or unwilling to understand that Tobacco Control has stripped away the last vestiges of your civil and individual rights. We no longer have any rights....

I'll admit that I've always just assumed that there had to at least be a rational justification for something, like no smoking indoors because of second hand smoke health risks. But for a citywide ban, even in open spaces, where people don't congregate. That's like banning plaid.

This all started before I could vote, so most of it I've not known to be any different. But things always at least made sense if you bought into their propaganda.

 

[kross8]

I vape & I boycott with my tax $

seems like a simple bumper sticker.

 

[Robert Cromwell]

I got no problem with not vaping in restaurants, stores, movies, etc.
But not on the street, sidewalks, parking lots, etc?
Place is run by selfrighteous prigs.

 

[VNeil]

I'll admit that I've always just assumed that there had to at least be a rational justification for something, like no smoking indoors because of second hand smoke health risks. But for a citywide ban, even in open spaces, where people don't congregate. That's like banning plaid.

This all started before I could vote, so most of it I've not known to be any different. But things always at least made sense if you bought into their propaganda.

Well then perhaps tobacco control is out of control. Or perhaps the mearest whiff of a cigarette can be lethal. Something is killing those 40,000 people "known" to be dying of SHS each year. Or perhaps you no longer have any expectation of rights.

 

[DC2]

This is all very good.
We need more of the status quo.

Is this the year people wake up?
Or are we actually breeding people that support what is?

 

[Lessifer]

Well then perhaps tobacco control is out of control. Or perhaps the mearest whiff of a cigarette can be lethal. Something is killing those 40,000 people "known" to be dying of SHS each year. Or perhaps you no longer have any expectation of rights.

So, instead of blaming me for not expecting to have rights that were given away before I was old enough to vote, what can be done to fight this?

It's a bit like footloose, no dancing in this city!

 

[VNeil]

So, instead of blaming me for not expecting to have rights that were given away before I was old enough to vote, what can be done to fight this?

It's a bit like footloose, no dancing in this city!

I wasn't blaming you. Just pointing out the total destruction of our rights. Even to smoke in our own homes in the case of a common wall now. And it's not nearly over, it is accelerating.

 

[Lessifer]

I wasn't blaming you. Just pointing out the total destruction of our rights. Even to smoke in our own homes in the case of a common wall now. And it's not nearly over, it is accelerating.

I agree, so what can we do about it, which is what I was asking before. I can't imagine that a citywide ban is not somehow illegal, though I'm not a lawyer, so perhaps it is.

And I don't mean revolt against the government, or vote out everyone and replace them. That might help, but is unlikely to happen, and definitely won't happen any time soon.

 

[VNeil]

I agree, so what can we do about it, which is what I was asking before. I can't imagine that a citywide ban is not somehow illegal, though I'm not a lawyer, so perhaps it is.

And I don't mean revolt against the government, or vote out everyone and replace them. That might help, but is unlikely to happen, and definitely won't happen any time soon.

Other than armed revolt I'm out of ideas.

 

[VNeil]

I agree, so what can we do about it, which is what I was asking before. I can't imagine that a citywide ban is not somehow illegal, though I'm not a lawyer, so perhaps it is.

And I don't mean revolt against the government, or vote out everyone and replace them. That might help, but is unlikely to happen, and definitely won't happen any time soon.

Oh yea one idea. Death. I'm glad I'm near the end of my life. Seriously. I feel sorry for my grandkids.. except they won't know any better. Ignorance is bliss but I grew up in the 70s so I can't hide behind ignorance.

 

[DC2]

Other than armed revolt I'm out of ideas.

We need to elect someone who will start deconstructing the bureaucracies.