Expensive mods and cheap tanks, cheap mods and expensive tanks, cheap/cheap or money is no object?
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I dont take "sides" nor do I support division.
We are all vapers.
I do support truth, facts, and honesty.
I dont support sloppy businesses or hype.
I own many authentics and high end items.
Ill pay for quality if its actually there.
I will not overpay.
I encourage people to examine facts and to not generalize.
Nothing I have posted here is incorrect.
I think price points have changed over the time I've been vaping. There was a time when any mod under $40 was likely to be of limited quality and most good devices were made in the US, Europe and perhaps the Philippines.
Now, virtually any vaping style can be pulled off with a sub-$40 device. For the mech user, many good devices can be had for under $40, while the subohm fan can grab a Pico for $30 or less. For me, a formerly expensive mod, the durable ProVari 2.5, satisfies my lower wattage craving for about $30 nowadays.
As much as I thought the Golden Age of Vaping had passed, there are still bountiful choices at most any price point!
Now, virtually any vaping style can be pulled off with a sub-$40 device. For the mech user, many good devices can be had for under $40, while the subohm fan can grab a Pico for $30 or less. For me, a formerly expensive mod, the durable ProVari 2.5, satisfies my lower wattage craving for about $30 nowadays.
As much as I thought the Golden Age of Vaping had passed, there are still bountiful choices at most any price point!
3 years ago, new to ECF, i had the audacity to say a Vamo V3 was superior to the Provari 2.5 mini. I was torched without mercy..
At least it wasn't pitchforks too. Wasn't that around the time a Provari 2.5 would have been ~$100? (sorry, I'm newer to vaping and going on hearsay of what I think I read on here at some point)
It's premier night here at Attack of the Clones, but outside the ECF theater is the real show, The Return of the Dorks. 
No face-palm emote, eh?
No face-palm emote, eh?
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In defending myself,,vigorously,, i had posts deleted. Actually the Provari was $200 at the time.
Did buy a 30 dollar blem last summer. I Still prefer the Vamo..
It was a running joke for a few years here. The provaritini crowd were vicious.
Same with REOnauts...until Rob started selling clone attys on the REO website.
Lol.
Again, each to their own.
I advise keeping ones eyes wide open.
It's premier night here at for Attack of the Clones, but outside the ECF theater is the real show, The Return of the Dorks.
No face-palm emote, eh?
What I've noticed in the last couple of years is that many of the former clone manufacturers have become authentic manufacturers.
Yep.
And strangely their pricing didnt go up x 10.
Lol
And authentic modders have begun to drop prices in order to remain relevant in the marketplace.
Funny how that works.
I still believe in terms of price/quality Vamo was a better choice. Of course today Vamo cannot compete with other mods, such as Pico.
A lot of things make US labor high, not just healthcaree. As I pointed out we have Environmental Laws, Labor Laws, and we don't have Slave Labor Camps like the Lao Gai. This is the #1 reason why it's so cheap to produce goods in China.
Yes trade is good but things need to be on a level playing field.
Last year you turned me on to a little itty bitty KSD 25 watt mod. Use it all the time.
Didn't KSD make the Vamo?..
Not a single mod on the market was made by Chinese slave labor.
You are making unsubstatiated claims that are entirely out of context.
"Lao Gai" refers to penal labor.
We absolutely have a penal labor system in the US, and have for as long as we have been a nation.
Here:
Penal labor in the United States - Wikipedia
Federal Prison Industries - Wikipedia
Especially in ultra liberal California:
California Prison Industry Authority - Wikipedia
They dont make mods either, btw.
The chinese slave labor is propaganda.
Industry is subsidized by the government to keep the machines rolling and paychecks flowing to the billions of families that live their.
Its a totally different economy.
The life and business isnt fair or equal worldwide, and never will be.
Thats reality, and isnt a valid excuse for inability to compete in the global marketplace.
I don't know - I thought this was an excellent exercise in thought by @BreSha6869 . Simple yet quite interesting (me).
What I don't understand is all the judgment passing that took hold. Who cares? Does anyone really care what I do? Because, I've got to be honest, I couldn't give a (X) what any of y'all do with your money. If what I do with mine concerns anyone, well...(sigh) - go on and have fun with that.
So, interesting thought, no? Expensive mods & cheap atties (and/or vice-versa)?
*runs up to you* *jump* HIGH FIVE IN DA AIR!!!!
I think (& this is just my observation) what went wrong in this thread (after having read all the posts) is someone is not quite understanding that quoting a post doesn't mean an attack on their opinion is eminent. If I responded to everyone who'se ever quoted me with the mindset that they're out to get me, I'd need some serious help.
Quoting a post is part of any forum etiquette which keeps the flow of conversation straight. It does not mean a post was selected for the purpose of attacking said poster & I so wish said poster would stop making this an attack issue.
It's clear we all have our personal preferences & from what I can tell, no one said anyone's preference was wrong!
#micdrop #exitlikeaboss
*runs up to you* *jump* HIGH FIVE IN DA AIR!!!!
I think (& this is just my observation) what went wrong in this thread (after having read all the posts) is someone is not quite understanding that quoting a post doesn't mean an attack on their opinion is eminent. If I responded to everyone who'se ever quoted me with the mindset that they're out to get me, I'd need some serious help.
Quoting a post is part of any forum etiquette which keeps the flow of conversation straight. It does not mean a post was selected for the purpose of attacking said poster & I so wish said poster would stop making this an attack issue.
It's clear we all have our personal preferences & from what I can tell, no one said anyone's preference was wrong!
#micdrop #exitlikeaboss
HIGH-FIVE RIGHT BACK AT YOU!!!!I've missed you. WE have missed you. GREAT to see you, Lex, and I hope you are WELL.
*runs up to you* *jump* HIGH FIVE IN DA AIR!!!!
I think (& this is just my observation) what went wrong in this thread (after having read all the posts) is someone is not quite understanding that quoting a post doesn't mean an attack on their opinion is eminent. If I responded to everyone who'se ever quoted me with the mindset that they're out to get me, I'd need some serious help.
Quoting a post is part of any forum etiquette which keeps the flow of conversation straight. It does not mean a post was selected for the purpose of attacking said poster & I so wish said poster would stop making this an attack issue.
It's clear we all have our personal preferences & from what I can tell, no one said anyone's preference was wrong!
#micdrop #exitlikeaboss
Spot. On.
You get extra points and a raised beer for successfully using the Breadvan 250 in a conversation about mods!!You're missing the point!
It has nothing to do with clones or authentic.
The point is that it never fails to get a rise out of purists. Which is just internet fun.
Little story:
Had a customer drop of his 308 Ferrari for some work. (absolutely the worse model Ferrari ever manufactured) Well, the "Breadvan" was still in the shop at the time. I laughed for a week over how this 308 owner turned his nose up saying "that's not a Ferrari" about a "modified" SWB that was known as the GTO killer. (the Breadvan was worth about 4 million at the time ... the 308, about 4 thousand)
Excellent form.
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