1. People mentoring defaco bans etc here or in many other posts is not fear mongering but simply letting people know of the possibility not probability, no harm in having knowledge.
2. The way the rules are written can be interpreted as all current PV's etc will or could be banned pending FDA approval, which for a fact doesn't look good, again not fear mongering but simply making people aware they need to be on this NOW, I won't wait.
3. This wager is silly, and I don't care who wins, as long as I'm allowed to legally Vape.
These are my opinions only. The choice is simple sit and wait by doing nothing, or get up and stand against these deeming rules, what have we got to lose? Another life choice. I choose to fight, not sit as I don't trust these regulations as they stand.
1. Agree that there is no harm in having knowledge. But if basing logic of defacto ban on supposition, then it is fear mongering. Here is some info from FDA proposal that deals with the 'knowledge' and 'probability' going forward for what many seem to be prattling on about (here on day 1).
FDA does not intend to initiate enforcement action against products on the market for failing to have an FDA marketing authorization until 24 months following the effective date of the final rule. In addition, as described in section VIII.A.6.c, we intend to continue that compliance policy pending review of marketing applications if those applications are submitted within the 24 months after the final rule's effective date. We intend to work with industry to assist them in making submissions. We expect that our proposed approach, as discussed in this section, would help minimize disruption while FDA conducts its pre-market review. Further, we request comment on whether there are ways that we might provide additional flexibility with respect to PMTAs that would still be appropriately protective of the public health.
*Bold emphasis mine.
2. I think the reason people are engaged in fear mongering is two fold. One to rally the troops (and eh, who cares if we aren't being completely honest with the troops. They need fear of ban to get them going.) and two, because of FDA track record.
But I see FDA bending over backwards in this report to work with industry as cited above and if desired, I'm glad to post more from the proposal that backs up where I stand on all this. That was one excerpt among several that make it clear FDA is not going the heavy handed route in this. eCigs are new, and they get this. They also are charged with public health, at least on the surface of things, and so they are doing a huge CYA with this application process. But, if they wanted to play hard ball with industry, things would be worded differently and thus the supposition would be easier to float out there without the likes of someone like me being able to call that out.
3. You are going to be allowed to vape. I'll concede that we are in a new 'wait and see' game, but this one is, IMO, far different than the one leading up to today. And this one tells me, based on this report, and based on 'genie out of the bottle' and based on very basic trust in 'way world works' that vaping will be legal, and it won't be only BT that is making a profit.
Yet, there are others who are engaged in fear mongering. Some who I respect, even admire. And so the 'wait and see' is about best we can reasonably hope for, but my wager is, at least a little bit, rhetorical as I'm willing to go on record and say that despite FDA proposed regulations, which we now are fairly well aware of, the eCig industry will double or triple its gross revenue from 2014 in next 3 to 5 years. I'm at least 60% confident on that. I'm around 90% confident it'll be about the same or better. And 99.9% confident that the eCig industry will not be decimated. Those who conclude otherwise, IMO, are engaged in fear mongering.
I'd also just add that in my worldview, and what makes me as confident as I am in above scenarios, is that 'way world works' is there won't be people sitting around doing nothing. I see that as impossible. Fear need not be brought in to get people to do something. Reality of local/state and other country politics on eCigs will be motivation enough, plus I see the opposition working against eCigs for as long as I'm alive and probably for 1000 years after that. Vapers, with history of smoking rights being decimated, are likely to stay motivated for at least next 50 years when it comes to politics of eCigs.
