FINITI contains Ethanol: WHY??

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  1. vaperature

    vaperature Moved On Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I've been trying different brands of over the counter cigalikes and I think the worst one I tried was the FINITI. Not only did the battery only last eight hours but the vape had no throat hit or taste whatsoever and vaping it made me feel really light headed and made me act all goofy as if I was drunk. Last night I was surfing around learning about vaping and I stumbled upon a video from a guy who described the exact same feeling I got after vaping a FINITI and then he read the back of the package (something I didn't do and don't have my original package to compare it to). The ingredients included:

    2-Acetylpyrazine, 2-Hydroxypropane-1,2,3-Tricarboxylic Acid, Ethanol, 3-[(2S)-1Methylpyrrolidin-2-YL] Pyridine, Natural and Artificial Flavors, Water, Propane-123-Triol.

    ...?? I don't know what all this stuff is but the ingredient that strikes me the most is Ethanol. Why would anyone put Ethanol into an e-cig? Why would anyone want to vape Ethanol? What would vaping Ethanol do to you? Is that what causes the lightheadedness?

    Does anyone know if these ingredients are still in a FINITI cigalike and does anyone have any rationale as to WHY FINITI puts Ethanol in their e-cigs?
     
  2. Penn

    Penn Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    2-Acetylpyrazine - used for nutty flavor and flavor enhancer.
    2-Hydroxypropane-1,2,3-Tricarboxylic Acid - AKA citric acid
    3-[(2S)-1Methylpyrrolidin-2-YL] Pyridine - AKA nicotine
    Propane-123-Triol - AKA glycerol, they type used in most is vegetable derived but this is probably synthetic

    As far as your main question ethanol is probably used as a PG substitute.
     
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    vaperature Moved On Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Why would they need a PG substitute? I don't think there is any shortage of PG in the world.

    Out of curiosity I've been looking at the packages that I do have sitting around. I noticed my Swisher package doesn't contain a list of ingredients at all. That's not good either. However, my little Fling Mini lists: Nicotine, Water, PG, Glycerol and flavor--period.
     
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    Penn Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    The questions you are asking aren't bad to ask but they do feed to the pro-FDA involvement.

    I have no idea why a substitute would be used for PG unless it is either less expensive or mixes better.

    I disagree with not posting any ingredients as Swisher does. I also disagree with not putting nicotine content (either in mg/ml or percent) on the packaging but a lot of disposables don't include that information. Fling clearly doesn't list the ingredients in order of highest content to lowest as food is required to do.

    At least none of them list oxidane. That would really make me wonder what they are hiding.
     
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    vaperature Moved On Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    BLU lists: distilled water, nicotine, fcc grade vegetable glycerin, natural flavors, artificial flavors, citric acid
     
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    retired1 Curmudgeon Admin Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Ethanol is used as a extraction catalyst (or carrier) for flavor extraction. It's a commonly used substance and is an authorized ingredient for manufacturing processes in the food industry. In fact, it's in the category of "Good manufacturing practices".
     
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    vaperature Moved On Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Just curious what you mean that my question "feed to the pro-FDA involvement." The FINITI is the only one that caused me to feel lightheaded and the only one that contains Ethanol. I'm talking about what I put into my own body. I'm not talking about the FDA.
     
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    vaperature Moved On Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Can you name something else that you consume into your lungs that contains ethanol??
     
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    Penn Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    fcc? What does the Federal Communications Commission have to do with anything? Are you sure that isn't USP?
     
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    Penn Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    DIY'ers know if you want flavor concentrates without PG what you can expect is pure grain alcohol (ethanol).

    ETA - once mixed some people leave it uncapped for a while for the ethanol to evaporate. I don't see the potential problem with inhalations. At least it will kill bacteria.
     
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    vaperature Moved On Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    that's what the package says, FCC, I kid you not
     
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    vaperature Moved On Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    food chemical codex
     
  13. Penn

    Penn Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    Yeah, I just looked that up. Apparently it is part of USP.
     
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    Some people use either a little bit of distilled water or ethanol to thin out otherwise pure VG liquids. By itself, VG is too viscous for some wicking materials and/or delivery systems. As mentioned by retired1, tho, it probably has something to do with flavor extraction.
     
  15. vaperature

    vaperature Moved On Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Well there are fads among kids where they "smoke" alcohol to get high, so I'm just wondering what the effects of vaping ethanol has on the body.
     
  16. smacuser

    smacuser avid vapper Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I heard some use booze in their DiY for throat hit.
     
  17. vaperature

    vaperature Moved On Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I wouldn't mind a Jaggermeister flavored vape.
     
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    vaperature Moved On Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    A Makers Mark flavor wouldn't be bad either. Or how about a real bitter IPA?
     
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    vaperature Moved On Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I should stop. I'm starting to get thirsty. LOL.
     
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