Fire and Ice

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  1. Ariel

    Ariel Full Member ECF Veteran

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    I was chatting with a friend yesterday, and we got on the topic of juice flavors, and from that came up with this idea for something like the cinnamon mint liqueur. I mixed it up today, and it turned out WAY better than I hoped.

    Here's the recipe for 6 ml, 24 mg strength:

    Add to syringe in this order:

    2.50 ml glycerin
    5 drops menthol base (instructions follow)
    0.10 ml cinnamon oil (Lorann's)
    1 drop spearmint essential oil
    0.40 ml PGA
    3.00 ml 48 mg unflavored base

    Shake and vape. :vapor:

    If the mint flavor isn't *quite* strong enough for you, another drop of menthol base should do the trick.

    Before I get complaints/comments about the oils, I'd like to say that I've been blending juices using oils for about 15 months now, and I have yet to have an atty die on me. The single atty that's died on me since I started vaping about 18 months ago had nothing to do with vaping a blend with oil in it. There's not enough oil in my blends to cause a problem, so long as the vaper is willing to maintain those atties properly. ^shrug^ YMMV.

    I can't remember who posted instructions on making menthol base, but it was somewhere on ECF and is ridiculously easy to do. (Thanks to whoever came up with this.) Here's a brief refresher:

    Crush menthol crystals in a double plastic bag until powdery.
    Fill a dropper bottle with the crushed crystals.
    Add PGA into bottle until crystals dissolve and the bottle is full.
    Cap the bottle and shake while running under hot water. Shake until crystals are totally dissolved, about 2 min.
     
  2. thelook

    thelook Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    Wish I DIY'ed that sounds FANTASTIC!!!
     
  3. LuckyLulu

    LuckyLulu Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Going to try this tonight, thanks!
    Lulu
     
  4. thelook

    thelook Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    You are Lucky Lulu...you DIY:)
    Let me know how it is, I may have to buy supplies and try this, this flavor sounds right up my ally!
     
  5. LuckyLulu

    LuckyLulu Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I try :D
    I actually prefer my own mixes to "store bought" now. I do not have spearmint (I have it on order from PA) but i'm going to try it with peppermint. If it's any good I'll send you some. I'll let you know!
     
  6. thelook

    thelook Ultra Member ECF Veteran

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    Really???!!!!! You are so sweet!
    Thank you....crossing fingers!!
     
  7. Ariel

    Ariel Full Member ECF Veteran

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    I hope you two like it as much as me. The spearmint essential oil is something I picked up at the local health food store (Whole Foods is a good example). It's one of the cheapest oils available.

    This recipe mutated from one where I just wanted to tweak the menthol a bit, and added a drop of the spearmint to the menthol blend.

    The proportions for that are 6 drops of menthol base to 1 drop of spearmint oil, with 0.50 ml of PGA instead of 0.40 ml. The other measurements stay the same.

    I'm considering trying wintergreen EO, and maybe combining the two with 5 drops of menthol to 1 drop of each of those oils.

    (Wintergreen oil is cheap too.)

    DIY is so much fun, and working in small batches means if one batch doesn't quite work out, it's not a huge loss. I've certainly dumped my share of hideously untasty batches. :laugh:

    For further consideration, 1 drop of lavender EO adds a lovely dimension to many of the fruit-flavored DIY blends. My blog has more recipes.
     
  8. Ariel

    Ariel Full Member ECF Veteran

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    Slight update to the original recipe - it's tiny, but I tried it today and it made a HUGE difference. The blend is much tastier and really well balanced.

    To the above recipe, change the menthol drops from 5 to 6, and add a drop of wintergreen essential oil.

    The first batch was very yummy, but a bit heavy on the cinnamon.
     
  9. JonnyVapΣ

    JonnyVapΣ Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Just tried a similar batch tonight. This is tasty. Now to keep the coworkers away...
     
  10. jt76542

    jt76542 Super Member ECF Veteran

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    I got a bottle of Fire and Ice from Vaporbomb.com and haven't been able to put it down yet. AWESOME TH and flavor. I will mix up your recipe tomorrow.
     
  11. proudlion

    proudlion Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    my first ever bottle of Mutt's Fire 'n Ice from VaporBomb arrived today and it's like crack to me - I, too, cannot put it down. I smoked menthol, mostly Kools and Newports, for many years.

    I haven't attempted DIY yet, don't even have the supplies, but your recipe sounds wonderful
     
  12. Liv2Ski

    Liv2Ski Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Thanks for the post and recipe.
     
  13. Ariel

    Ariel Full Member ECF Veteran

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    You're very welcome. The upgraded version with spearmint/wintergreen and 6 drops of menthol are a permanent part of my "tried and true" recipes file - the one I always go to when I don't have time or energy to try something new.
     
  14. 48lowes

    48lowes Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Scubabatdan is one. You should download his e-juice calculator at the bottom of all his posts.
    View Profile: Scubabatdan - E-Cigarette Forum
     
  15. JonnyVapΣ

    JonnyVapΣ Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I just drop the menthol crystals into whatever bottle I'm using then warm it under hot tap water. Takes about 3-5 minutes to dissolve once warmed. Or, if I'm whipping up a quick "vape-o-the-day" bottle in the morning, I just drop a couple crystals in the bottle then put it in my pocket. By the time I get to work they're dissolved. I don't take exact measurements when making juice for myself, kinda like the way I cook, pinch of this, dash of that...lol.
     
  16. hdpjr68

    hdpjr68 Forum Supplier ECF Veteran

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    Again I will let the public know that VaporBomb.com does not use anything from Lorann's.
     
  17. DawnsDone

    DawnsDone Super Member ECF Veteran

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    This sounds fantastic. However I don't have the exact flavors. I have F Apprentice in: Cinnamon Redhots, Peppermint and Menthol Liquid. This is my very first diy juice. Any suggestions on how to make your recipe from my flavors?

    I was thinking leaving it as is but I don't know the difference between the menthol your using and the liquid one I ordered. And maybe since my cinnamon is red hot type I should decrease it a bit?

    I hope I can do it because this sounds great!
     
  18. jt76542

    jt76542 Super Member ECF Veteran

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    I would try that over Lorans. I think that flavors like PA and such have a much better / richer quality. Wish I had the ingredients to Fire and Ice from VB. I'd make that juice and vape it until my lungs dried up....lol
     
  19. Rosco

    Rosco Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    I have to agree. This stuff is so "right on" if you like cinnamon and menthol. I smoked Kool's for 40 years and wasn't totally into cinnamon, but this stuff is gooooooood. :thumb:
     
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