zoid,
You and Bill's 100 drop tt are basically doing the same thing except you are wanting to do a larger batch to test. The 100 drop tt averages to around 5ml and with each drop representing 1% it's enough to either drip or fill a small
tank to test it.
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And @IDJoel further expanded it down to .1 %. Maybe he can chime in?
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Hi Sugar, I
think what you are referring to is not Bill's 100DTT, but another method he documented for quickly (and rather roughly; by his own admission) homing in on one's personal "preferred" flavor percentage when doing
single flavor taste tests. It is part of his DropBox link that is found in his signature line. This method was simply referred to as the "Flavor Chart" and should not be confused with his 100DTT method.
The benefit (and intent) of the flavor chart was to allow the user to immediately find his/her sweet spot for any given single flavor using only the flavor concentrate and PG. It also has the advantage of being cumulative (meaning it is ongoing and you don't have to start over for each percentage). This makes it fast and uses a very small amount of inventory.
It is only intended to give you a very rough "ballpark" starting point with which to start working with a new flavor.
The process works by adding
x number of drops of flavor concentrate to
y number of PG drops, stir, remove
z number of drops to
vape (taste), then add additional increments of concentrate and PG to the remaining volume to move up to the next percentage, vape taste again. Repeat.
I personally found that its increments increased too quickly/too big of gaps (5%, 7.4%, 10.1%,12.8%, 15.2%, 17.3%, 19.9%,22.4%, 24.8%). This worked for Bill as he prefers to mix High Flavor percentages and mostly only uses TFA concentrates.
I was moving away from high flavor percentages, and also using multiple flavor manufacturers (which demanded much lower percentages than TFA; like FA and INW), so wanted something that would tighten up those gaps. I did the math, and using a diluted concentrate (25%), I was able to come up with something similar that went up in roughly 1% increments (1%, 2.04%, 2.99%, 3.96%, 5%, 6%, 7.07%, 8.03%, 9.05%).
There are some potential short-comings to this method (both Bill's original and my reduced percentage). First, and foremost, it does not account for any potential effect of aging (steeping). Bill (and others) feel that High Flavor mixing negates the need for steeping so this isn't an issue ("Add enough flavor so it tastes good NOW." school of thought). Secondly, it only provides 3 drops for tasting at each percentage: this always seemed to be a little "stingy" for me. I could get 2,
m a y b e 3, puffs on a single coil build (and three drops just doesn't work on a two coil build). I have doubled the number of all drops to increase the available drops for vaping and that does help.
I want to do a 30 ml bottle of just the flavors in the recipe itself so that when I mix a batch of juice I can have just one measurement.
Shameless plug here
: if you (or anyone else) expects to be creating a lot of flavor bases (just the concentrates to make custom "one shot" concentrates of your ADV recipes) and you would rather not do the arithmetic by hand/brain power, the Juice Calculator created by ECF member
@HotRod19579 has the ability to do this automatically with any recipe in the program.
Here are a couple of screen shots from JC's example recipe:
Original recipe.
Navigate to creation screen.
Instant/automatic results. Note that you can save as a new recipe (#1), and/or as an ingredient (#2) for use in later recipes.
New "recipe for making the flavor base.
New recipe for using my newly created flavor base.
Total time for manually inputting the original recipe data, creating the flavor base recipe, creating flavor base ingredient, and creating new single ingredient recipe was less than 4 minutes.
I do understand that some folks prefer to work with good old paper and pencil, others will never need/want flavor bases. But for those that do like feature-rich calculators; this one is worth considering. You can find the most current version in the first post here here:
New Calculator to try
https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/new-calculator-to-try.480587/
I guess it would be the right thing to do to offer the following disclaimer: The calculator is totally free. It is for windows platforms only (unfortunately). I am not affiliated in any way, shape, or form with HotRod, or his calculator, other than I participate in his thread, and I am a self-admitted fan/groupie!
