Flavours you own, but never use.

[CoreyDog]

Hi all,

Thought I'd try a little experiment.

I was sorting through my DIY flavours today (How did I accumulate so many!) And started thinking, 'I never use some of these'

Then I remember why, either didn't like the flavour because I couldn't work the right recipe or it's just vile!

So what flavours do people have but never use and why not? And if anyone can maybe help out with a decent recipe to help others use these flavours, please go ahead.

• Blue Raspberry (TFA) - Just couldn't work a recipe to include it in. Fact has no aroma doesn't help.

• Iron Bru - Tried a single flavour recipe with this, vile.

• Lucozade - Vile on it's own so mixed with orange once, that strong overpowered orange and was still vile.

• Blackcurrant (TFA) - Another I got having lots of wonderful ideas... never used and cant think now what to do with it.

• Granny Smith Apple (TFA) - Think I bought the wrong Apple, always overwhelms everything else.

Few others but seems long enough now. So, go ahead.

 

[man00ver]

I'll play!

1. Almond Amaretto (TFA) - I love the liqueur, and I enjoyed vape Wild's "Amaretto Rush," so I bought this in my first batch of flavorings. On some bad advice, I mixed it up as a single flavor at 10%; it grossed me out and I haven't touched it since. Now that I'm writing this, I think I'll re-test it at 3%, and surely I can find a place for it in a mix or two.
2. Chocolate Coconut Almond Candy Bar (TFA) - Another early acquisition that I'd hoped would be a good one-shot single flavoring. It was a disappointment; needed a lot of breathing to get the alcohol out, and then seemed weak and inauthentic. It could be doctored up, but by the time I did that I could make a better version myself.
3. Cinnamon Coffee Cake (CAP) - This was not what I expected, but instead was a fiery cinnamon that fully overpowered any included pastry note (and could torch up pretty much anything I mixed it with). I successfully used it a couple times in miniscule amounts (0.4% or less) as a cinnamon spice, but I mostly leave it alone now.

 

[jambi]

The list of ones I don't use is lots longer than the list of ones I frequently use. In other words I have too many dammed flavors.

Of course, there are a few that I avoid with disgust...

TFA Ripe Banana, should have named it Ripe Banana Peel Feet
INW Rhubarb
INW Raspberry
TFA Cantaloupe (melon rind? Really?)
TFA "Western"
INW Honey
FA Cocoa
FA Billberry, don't even like how it smells.

I have full bottles of all those. Anyone care to trade?

 

[JCinFLA]

I have full bottles of all those. Anyone care to trade?

Could post them on the DIY Swaps thread! I don't think many people even know there is such a thing though. But, with so many people getting into DIY in the last 6 months or so...it would probably have a lot more people taking part in it if they knew it was there!

Diy swaps - USA Please read first post for rules and guidelines

 

[JCinFLA]

Chocolate Coconut Almond Candy Bar (TFA) - Another early acquisition that I'd hoped would be a good one-shot single flavoring. It was a disappointment........It could be doctored up, but by the time I did that I could make a better version myself.

I had high hopes for it, too, when I ordered it. However, I did try to doctor it up, and made something I like (but not for an ADV), but the neighbor really likes. It's 1 of the 5 recipes he has me make for him on a regular basis. I mixed it with some TFA VBIC, TFA Maraschino Cherry (max. 2%, it's potent), and TFA Cotton Candy. I called it Cherry Chocolate Vanilla.

 

[ceeceeisme]

Hi all,

Thought I'd try a little experiment.

I was sorting through my DIY flavours today (How did I accumulate so many!) And started thinking, 'I never use some of these'

Then I remember why, either didn't like the flavour because I couldn't work the right recipe or it's just vile!

So what flavours do people have but never use and why not? And if anyone can maybe help out with a decent recipe to help others use these flavours, please go ahead.

• Blue Raspberry (TFA) - Just couldn't work a recipe to include it in. Fact has no aroma doesn't help.

• Iron Bru - Tried a single flavour recipe with this, vile.

• Lucozade - Vile on it's own so mixed with orange once, that strong overpowered orange and was still vile.

• Blackcurrant (TFA) - Another I got having lots of wonderful ideas... never used and cant think now what to do with it.

• Granny Smith Apple (TFA) - Think I bought the wrong Apple, always overwhelms everything else.

Few others but seems long enough now. So, go ahead.

TFA Black Currant: One of my favorites!

Taste of Gods (clone of a Canadian e-juice)
TFA Black Currant 8.65%
TFA Coconut Extra 1%
CAP Golden Pineapple 4.75%
TFA Sweetener 1.5% (optional)
CAP Vanilla Custard v.1 4.25%

Age: minimum 2 weeks, 3 or more is better

Black Mango (also posted on the Recipes for Dummies thread)
INW Mango 2% (alternatively can use TFA Mango @ 6% or 7%)
TFA Black Currant 6%
TFA Cotton Candy 1%
TFA Sweetener 1% (optional)

Age: 2 weeks

I happen to be vaping both these recipes right now (yes, in different tanks )
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And I'll play along too.... TFA Rainbow Sherbert..... *blech* I can't find anything to use this in. Seems like no matter what it touches, it ruins

 

[JCinFLA]

Granny Smith Apple (TFA) - Think I bought the wrong Apple, always overwhelms everything else.

Here's 1 of Bill's Magic Vapor's recipes. I haven't tried this 1 yet, but I've liked all of his that I've tried so far. I'll most likely use the DX version of the BC in mine.

It's made with all TFA flavorings.

Caramel Candy Apple

Granny Smith Apple - 6%
Caramel Candy - 4%
Caramel Extra - 3%
Bavarian Cream - 3%
Cotton Candy - 5%

 

[Stosh]

Black tea
Gin (needs vermouth or tonic)

Vapable but seldom used, a couple of tobaccos that just miss the mark and a variety of lemon, orange and grapefruit from various makers. I like citrus flavors a lot but they all just don't cut it.

 

[NU_FTW]

Blue Raspberry (TFA) I had this one too, still do. I never figured out a good use for it. Tastes too floral/chemical even after breathing I think as a candy flavor it was even reported to be bad and TFA had considered getting rid of it

 

[DaveP]

I'm beginning to wonder if it's the flavors that are our worst enemy health-wise or just more FDA propaganda. We know about Popcorn Lung from Diacetyl and the dangers of some Cinnamon flavors. Our unfriendly FDA is beginning to issue vague assumptions about certain flavors killing Epitheliall cells when saturated with juice flavors.

This article narrows down the 5 flavors of 13 tested that caused ill effects to lung cells in the tests, but doesn't name them specifically.
E-Cigarette Flavorings Can Be Toxic to Lung Cells

Five flavors were found to decrease the cells’ ability to reproduce or perform their basic cellular functions. Epithelial cells make up an important protective layer in the airway and lungs.

“Because these e-liquids are not FDA regulated, we don’t know what chemical constituents make up all of these flavors,” Rowell said. “E-cigarettes are marketed as a safer alternative to traditional cigarettes because they don’t contain tobacco or tar, but the effects of inhaling many of the chemical constituents that create the flavor haven’t been tested.”

This one accuses the Surgeon General of launching scare campaigns.
Surgeon General Launches E-Cigarette Scare Campaign That Will Harm Public Health

 

[PapawBrett]

Synthetic tobaccos from TFA.
Tried several, maybe six or seven. But just couldn't stand the taste. Someone once sent me some Hangsen tobaccos, and while they were better, still didn't work for me.
Now I am extracting my own NET flavors. No use for synthetic tobaccos.

 

[JCinFLA]

This article narrows down the flavors that caused ill effects to lung cells in the tests.
E-Cigarette Flavorings Can Be Toxic to Lung Cells

I just spent a good while reading that linked article, as well as several lniked articles found within it. The "tests" done on the lung cells were done using specific eliquids (not flavorings), and were apparently from a single company - Vapor Girl.

IMO, in any scientific study, where broad generalizations are made...its results are suspect at best, if what was tested does not represent a very large number & variety of samples. Testing eliquids from only 1 company, and choosing a very limited number of specific ones from that company...doesn't even come close to producing reliable scientifc results that can then be use to form generalizations applicable to eliquids as a whole.

I put no faith in the results of any study, when those reported results are full of phrases like "might be", or "could be", or "potentially could", etc.

 

[ceeceeisme]

I just spent a good while reading that linked article, as well as several lniked articles found within it. The "tests" done on the lung cells were done using specific eliquids (not flavorings), and were apparently from a single company - Vapor Girl.

IMO, in any scientific study, where broad generalizations are made...its results are suspect at best, if what was tested does not represent a very large number & variety of samples. Testing eliquids from only 1 company, and choosing a very limited number of specific ones from that company...doesn't even come close to producing reliable scientifc results that can then be use to form generalizations applicable to eliquids as a whole.

I put no faith in the results of any study, when those reported results are full of phrases like "might be", or "could be", or "potentially could", etc.

I wholeheartedly agree JC and was composing a similar response!

The only thing I would add is..... always follow the money trail.

Not only on the study and the generalized statements made in reporting, but also on the so-called "independent" website where it was posted (which is something that is getting more difficult to do these days).

 

[DaveP]

I just spent a good while reading that linked article, as well as several lniked articles found within it. The "tests" done on the lung cells were done using specific eliquids (not flavorings), and were apparently from a single company - Vapor Girl.

IMO, in any scientific study, where broad generalizations are made...its results are suspect at best, if what was tested does not represent a very large number & variety of samples. Testing eliquids from only 1 company, and choosing a very limited number of specific ones from that company...doesn't even come close to producing reliable scientifc results that can then be use to form generalizations applicable to eliquids as a whole.

I put no faith in the results of any study, when those reported results are full of phrases like "might be", or "could be", or "potentially could", etc.

Exactly the reason I posted the article here. The FDA isn't concerned with weeding out specific flavors in the name of vaping safety. I think they are just building a media case against the industry using whatever sounds dangerous in the press. Word of mouth will spread the news that FDA found something bad.

 

[ceeceeisme]

It's a sad state of affairs, what's going on with the FDA. I feel for you guys!

 

[BrotherBob]

Blackcurrant (TFA) - Another I got having lots of wonderful ideas... never used and cant think now what to do with it.

Not sure if there is a TFA version. I use the FA version (suppose to be similar to a berry flavor with sweet and tart notes) for accent at 0.5 to 1.5% max. This fruit flavor will easily overpower any mix. Now playing with a cheesecake mix with a dash of BC.

 

[NU_FTW]

I just spent a good while reading that linked article, as well as several lniked articles found within it. The "tests" done on the lung cells were done using specific eliquids (not flavorings), and were apparently from a single company - Vapor Girl.

IMO, in any scientific study, where broad generalizations are made...its results are suspect at best, if what was tested does not represent a very large number & variety of samples. Testing eliquids from only 1 company, and choosing a very limited number of specific ones from that company...doesn't even come close to producing reliable scientifc results that can then be use to form generalizations applicable to eliquids as a whole.

I put no faith in the results of any study, when those reported results are full of phrases like "might be", or "could be", or "potentially could", etc.

Reminds me of the Diacetyl study that they specifically got 30 different vendors juice but all were custard/cream/popcorn type flavored....

 

[DaveP]

Reminds me of the Diacetyl study that they specifically got 30 different vendors juice but all were custard/cream/popcorn type flavored....

The ecig industry and its large support organizations will expose whatever is going on. We'll find out more about the intent of the FDA. I suspect that it's a targeted strategy to spread concern. Too bad they don't publish a study that shows how many people who vape don't smoke anymore. That wouldn't be in their best interest considering that the tobacco settlement payments are still in effect until about 2025.

 

[Rickb119]

Synthetic tobaccos from TFA.

I dumped a 4oz bottle of TFA M-Type Tobacco down the kitchen drain last summer. It took 2 full days, with windows open, for the smell to finally dissipate.

 

[englishmick]

I'll play!

1. Almond Amaretto (TFA) - I love the liqueur, and I enjoyed Vape Wild's "Amaretto Rush," so I bought this in my first batch of flavorings. On some bad advice, I mixed it up as a single flavor at 10%; it grossed me out and I haven't touched it since. Now that I'm writing this, I think I'll re-test it at 3%, and surely I can find a place for it in a mix or two.

Same here. I had some Amaretto, from VV I think, and it was one of my favorites before I started mixing. This TFA flavoring was so gross I couldn't finish the first tank, then I threw the bottle out. Didn't even try mixing it with anything.