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  1. react

    react Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 26, 2014
    Mars!
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    As I promised to share my FivePawns Grandmaster clone. Here is my two versions of grandmaster clone + diketone free for you guys. To me, both are %100 exact taste but I do prefer version 1. :)

    ➤ Important Notes:
    - 24 hours air steep required to eliminate chemical smell and taste from banana cream.! Make the formula, put it somewhere 24 hours cap off, close the cap after 24 hours shake it and leave it for 20 days steep.

    ➤ Version 1: (Contains Acetoin, Acetyl propionyl)
    • Banana Cream (TPA) %3.5
    • Peanut Butter (TPA) %10
    • Peanut Butter (FLV) %1
    • Caramel Original (TPA) %3.5
    • Hazelnut (TPA) %0.5
    • Acetyl Pyrazine (TPA) %1
    • Vanilla Classic (FA) %2
    • Cream (FLV) %1
    • Super Sweet (CAP) %0.1 (1 drop with its bottle for 30ml, 3 drops for 100ml)
    ➤ Version 2: (Contains Acetoin, Acetyl propionyl)
    • Banana Cream (TPA) %4
    • Peanut Butter (TPA) %8
    • Peanut Butter (FLV) %1
    • Caramel Original (TPA) %3.7
    • Hazelnut (TPA) %0.6
    • Acetyl Pyrazine (TPA) %1
    • Vanilla Swirl (TPA) %1.5
    • Ethyl Maltol %0.3
    • Super Sweet (CAP) %0.1 (1 drop with its bottle for 30ml, 3 drops for 100ml)
    Diketone Free: (It will taste a bit different from the original GM.)
    • DX Banana Cream (TPA) %4
    • DX Peanut Butter (TPA) %14
    • DX Caramel Original (TPA) %3.7
    • DX Hazelnut (TPA) %0.6
    • Acetyl Pyrazine (TPA) %1
    • Vanilla Swirl (TPA) %1.5
    • Fresh Cream (FA) %2
    • Super Sweet (CAP) %0.1 (1 drop with its bottle for 30ml, 3 drops for 100ml)
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    Mix Ratio: %50 PG/VG
    Steep Time: Peanut butter from perfumers is a very weak flavor. It needs at least 15 days steep to popout but the best taste will come out after 30 days of steeping time for all above recipes. Make the formula, leave it 24 hours cap off, shake it close the cap, forget it 20 days. Do not expect any peanut butter taste before 15 days.

    Why Peanut butter from FLV ?
    It is because TPA peanut butter is so weak, flv PB is a complementary to give that nice smooth peanut butter you get in the original GM. However, you can remove it then use %15 peanut butter TPA and 30 days steep which makes too much flavorings and no room for other flavors.

    I dont have capella super sweet ?
    Use your favorite sweetener at %1 or your desired ratio. If you are going to make this formula at high VG then there is no need to use any sweetener.

    ➤ Next is Fivepawns Castle Long clone with madagascar vanilla extraction process :) I will share it soon. I'm also working on Bobas Bounty the old dead one which is impossible to clone it as it is a natural flavor but at least I'm working on almost a close taste. :) + One hit wonder - Muffin Man ready.

    Enjoy ;)
     
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  2. OBAI ABED

    OBAI ABED Full Member

    May 15, 2015
    thank you very much
     
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  3. Attrish

    Attrish Full Member

    Mar 22, 2016
    Thanks a lot for sharing recipe, excited for 1Hit wonder.


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  4. Andromendous

    Andromendous Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 12, 2014
    Oklahoma, USA
    Is there anything i could substitute the fresh cream with? I have CAP sweet cream, TPA cotton candy, TPA marshmallow and a few others...

    And which manufacturer is FLV?

    Thank you very much for sharing your recipe!
     
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  5. react

    react Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 26, 2014
    Mars!
    TPA mars, cotton candy, sweet cream these are all flavor killers and they easily mute other flavors. Cotton candy is ethyl maltol, using it more than %1 can cause easy vapers tongue when you vape it too much, you wont be able to taste any other liquid for about 4-5 hours maybe a day.

    In fact, they do not mute all flavors. A lot of flavors have already ethyl maltol in it from its formula and when you add extra ethyl maltol over %0.8 like %1 it mutes that flavor as it makes so much ethyl maltol in the formula which lets people to think maltol mutes flavors :). So before making a new formula check flavor MSDS of that flavor. In this case, the best option is to use TPA marshmallow since some flavors have already maltol in this formula such as peanut butter Perfumer's Apprentice

    Using TPA mars at %1.5 will make the same effect as fa fresh cream on this recipe, however may add some sweetness and a bit candy like taste, therefore you should omit sweetener. Increase Peanut Butter to %15 and steep it at least 20 days.

    As a result, ethyl maltol or cotton candy and ethyl vanillin are an amazing ingredients that makes you feel those premium liquids as premium with its mouthfull effect and bold steam with smooth inhale, its a matter of how much using it with what flavor and checking if the flavor is already contain maltol or not if not use that much, if it has use that much trials will let you to produce a premium liquid. To me, premium means the liquid is bottled in a lab with a machine lol. As long as you keep your formulas the same and the same measurement, you will always have the same consistency.

    FLV is Flavorah. Cream from FLV gives a bold and thick steam with mouthfull at %1 and does not mute flavors, way better than fa fresh cream as it is ethyl alchol based super strong however it contains a bit AP since you are interested to diketone free recipe, just wanted to let you know.
     
  6. Dizzo

    Dizzo Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 20, 2015
    Milwaukee
    you have made me decide on these things being the first I buy for DIY.
    looking forward to castle long. I hope there's a diketone free way
     
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  7. FrankRice

    FrankRice Full Member

    Nov 30, 2015
    @react, this recipe is superb. The last bottle of Grandmaster I bought was 4 months aged, so I can't say how close this is to a 1 month old bottle, but your recipe is head and shoulders above the rest. I should know because I've tried a lot of them!

    There's a reddit recipe that was almost 30 percent flavoring. It was quite overpowering, unpleasant and then ultimately muted. Just the thought of vaping 30 percent is off-putting enough. There's also another one that comes up regularly when you google it, and it's so far off the mark.

    Your recipe has just been a pleasure to vape! Thank you for your efforts and willingness to share!
     
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  8. react

    react Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 26, 2014
    Mars!
    @FrankRice,
    You're welcome my friend. I'm glad you like it, the world is better when we all share.. :)
     
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  9. Mantis4343

    Mantis4343 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 5, 2014
    Glasgow, Ky, USA
    Looks amazing, never had the actual grandmaster but im down to try this. Just put in an order for the flavors now!
     
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  10. JohnnyDill

    JohnnyDill Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 22, 2013
    Uranus
    +1 on a new Boba's recipe. I have a boba-ish recipe that I have been making for almost two years. Always open to new possibilities. I made the Grandmaster #1 recipe. Smells SO good. I don't think I can wait for 20 days......... :facepalm: ;)
     
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  11. Phone Guy

    Phone Guy Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 25, 2013
    Arlington, Texas - USA
    I'm looking forward to a good castle long recipe! I've tried a bunch of them and while some were a decent vape, NONE were anything close to castle long or CLR.
     
  12. Tommy-Chi

    Tommy-Chi Vaping Grandmaster ECF Veteran

    Sep 9, 2015
    Chitown
    Hope that you are still around and that you will post the "Fivepawns Castle Long clone with madagascar vanilla extraction process." I'm looking for interesting recipes for the Vapocalypse!!!!
     
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  13. Tmebs

    Tmebs Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 16, 2014
    BFE, Illinois
    +1 on this statement ^^^
    Im patiently waiting for this also....even sitting on some vanilla beans I ordered!

    Appreciate your recipes!!!!!
    Thanks again.
     
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  14. Phone Guy

    Phone Guy Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 25, 2013
    Arlington, Texas - USA
    Any update on the castle long recipe?
     
  15. McGyver OC

    McGyver OC New Member

    Jun 25, 2016
    Yeah...I saw that recipe too...a lot of those look like a guess more than real experienced mixers
     
  16. Wheats

    Wheats Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 11, 2014
    Union NJ
    Thanks for the awesome recipe! Haven't had GMF in about 2 years.Question about mixing up this recipe. I've ordered all the flavors and waiting on fresh cream. Is it ok to mix it up and then add the fresh cream at a later date?


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  17. mariom3ch

    mariom3ch New Member

    Feb 13, 2015
    Indonesia
    Hello. What flavor could substitute FLV peanut butter and FLV cream. I dont have any seller of those around me
     
  18. react

    react Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 26, 2014
    Mars!
    I'm still working on it, I didnt like the last production I made, it has to be perfect. I'm sorry that I make you guys wait but it will worth.

    It is okay but you have to steep it extra 10 days more after you put the fresh cream to take effect.

    To make a grandmaster clone without FLV, here is my other recipe.

    • Banana Cream (TPA) %3
    • Peanut Butter (TPA) %14
    • Caramel Original (TPA) %3
    • Hazelnut (TPA) %0.6
    • Acetyl Pyrazine (TPA) %1
    • Super Sweet (CAP) %0.1 (1 drop with its bottle for 30ml, 3 drops for 100ml, or any other sweetener at your desired level.)
    %50 PG/VG, 1 day cap off steep then at least 20 days cap on steep.
     
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  19. character

    character Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 22, 2011
    philippines
    To be honest i never tried the GM before...

    Just thinking if it would be possible to substitute Caramel original (tpa) to salted Caramel (fw) same % as the GM they say had a bit of saltiness

    Hazelnut (tpa) to (fw) same %

    And acetyl pyrazine to FA cookie same %

    Would it be the same flavor as the clone you had made?

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  20. react

    react Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 26, 2014
    Mars!
    It wont be the same but will be a good cookie peanut butter banana cream taste at the end. Try 30ml and steep 25 days.
     
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