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Finally got around to doing this, sorry for the delay..

Lets see some pics first !!

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From the moment I held the case, you can just tell that Freemax have upped their game, the case is thicker, the plastic and overall presentation is top draw and its all just a better quality. Not as eye catching as Kanger still but a step forward none the less. The tank on the other hand is up there with Kanger now, the machining, the threads, it is really great quality, It was my little complaint with the Freemax Starre V2, it just wasn't quite there but the new Pro tank has nailed it and then some..

Top fill works wonders, I like how the bottom of the drip tips turns, turn it to ON and unscrew the top reveals two slots to fill your tank, there is plenty of room in my opinion, and works well. You simply screw the tank top back on and turn the bottom of the drip tip to OFF which seals the tank.

Many have asked and speculated about the juice level, whether like the Subtank mini the coil sits too high and your lose 2ml of juice because you have to refill, I'm pleased to say, that's not the case here either. Freemax came up with a very clever idea, the chimney is actually spring loaded, when you screw the bottom part of the tank where the coil sits it pushes the coil up into the tank level with the holes. This means a full 4ml of juice before you need to refill. What this also does is seals the coil to the chimney better so you don't get any spit back. I will post a picture with the juice in the tank later, I just didn't have the time as my daughter is still sick (just the flu)..
Ever though that the seal was or would wear when you screwed the coil onto it on the old Starre tank, well as this is spring loaded it doesn't dig into the seal as it did before, basically, you can't over tighten it and will surely last longer.

The AFC is machined better too and looks better compared to the notches that were there before, you still get the clicking sound which is good. The airflow has increased on the AFC, (so Freemax states) personally, I couldn't tell the different but its already airy enough and now you have the added drip tip air flow.
Turning the top of the drip tip shuts off or opens the air holes, It really makes a difference to the vape but I'm still on the fence whether I prefer it closed or open, I think open takes a little of the flavour away but increases the vaper and does cool it somewhat..

Nickel 0.15ohm coil - These are the same great quality as the old Starre coils, in fact apart from the nickel, they haven't changed, the Kanthal are the exact same coils as before which isn't a bad thing as I rate them as the best pre built coils on the market.
The temperature control coils work really well, no dry hits of course and the flavour is superb. Would I use them over the standard kanthal 0.25ohm all the time, Im not sure, I still like setting the wattage to 60w and vape away, maybe I'm just set in my ways, need a few weeks to comment fully.

I'm 99% sure with the new design, your not going to get any leaks with this tank, it is just sealed so well, I can't see it leaking and so far it hasn't , I even laid it on its side over night and no leaks, spent the next night upside down, no leaks.

There has been no flooding or anything I can complain about, I'm sitting here thinking of negative things and are hard pushed to come up with any.. Ok, two minor things, this tank is tall, it doesn't bother me and is it really a negative, I'd rather have it tall than 30mm wide (mentioning no names). Second is the same complaint I have with the Starre V2 but even more so with the Pro, this tank drinks juice like I drink beer, down in one, haha, ok maybe not that quick but be warned, you can vape 20 - 30ml a day, in fact you can vape the 4ml tank in 30 - 40 mins quite easily. I have now moved onto diy juice for this reason because there is no way I'm giving up this tank so I will just have to live with it.

It's not secret on ECF, I spout Freemax a lot, I don't work for them, I don't get paid, I recommend them because ..again personally, this is the best of the best and now we have the Pro it has took the top spot over all of them (pre built of course)

If your not into building coils, if you like sub ohm vaping, if you like tons of flavour and vaper then there is only one tank to buy, it is a brilliantly, well thought out, engineered masterpiece. It vapes like a dream and you can just hit these coils over and over again for 2 weeks plus. Even three weeks in (on the old Starre) the coil wasn't bad tasting, it just lost flavour and couldn't handle high wattage..I have no idea why some say they taste like burnt rubber, mine taste of desserts and custards, rich thick warm vape.

Do yourself a flavour favour, go and order a Starre Pro tank, they are the bomb !

The Starre Pro was tested and vaped on a SnowWolf 200w box mod..

Happy vaping :)
 
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Thanks for the review!!!!!!!!!!

In these pics (ABOVE) there is no juice in the tank, but it looks like there is going to be a out .5ml always below the holes (maybe more). If I had the tank today I would actually inject 1ML in it upright and take a pic to clarify how much of the 4ML is displaced in that area to dispel myths vs. fact of how much we are even talking.

When time allows since this will be a hot chat item, maybe you can take an upright photo with a small amount non crystal clear juice in the tank? It does not matter to me personally as I already ordered because of Starre performance, not leaking etc. means more to me than "optimum design" on over all on capacity, but others have already had the same questions. However as much as these tanks drink, we almost need 5ML to start with.

Thanks Rixsta!

PS..For folks who never read the other thread this photo below was in it and is a older pre-release pic and technically it could be filled with PG/Water and you have an optical illusion going on of how large the chimney base is or it could be actually a design that did not make it to production (this generation), heck it could even be when they tried other tests the juice did not get in the holes enough. Who knows.

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Thanks for the review. Ok so it performs good (expected because the olds one do well), holds 4ML which is good. Top fill looks about on par with what we have seen. No doubt Starre has proven (Maganus) on Gen 1 tanks to be a solid player. Love the coils!

Going back to the original questions I and others had in the UWELL thread about wasted juice design. In these photos (ABOVE) it looks like this unit matches most pre-production photos on etail sites which had people questioning wasted juice that will sit below the holes.

You posted a pic in that UWELL Crown thread thread when that came up (BELOW) which seemed to show the base of the chimney cover going closer to the edge which somewhat made it appear that it actually would be letting more juice not set below the holes.

In these pics (ABOVE) there is no juice in the tank, but it looks like there is going to be a out .5ml always below the holes (maybe more). If I had the tank today I would actually inject 1ML in it upright and take a pic to clarify how much of the 4ML is displaced in that area to dispel myths vs. fact of how much we are even talking.

When time allows since this will be a hot chat item, maybe you can take an upright photo with a small amount non crystal clear juice in the tank? It does not matter to me personally as I already ordered because of Starre performance, not leaking etc. means more to me than "optimum design" on over all on capacity, but others have already had the same questions. However as much as these tanks drink, we almost need 5ML to start with.

Thanks Rixsta!

PS..For folks who never read the other thread this photo below was in it and is a older pre-release pic and technically it could be filled with PG/Water and you have an optical illusion going on of how large the chimney base is or it could be actually a design that did not make it to production (this generation), heck it could even be when they tried other tests the juice did not get in the holes enough. Who knows.

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I have a flat head syringe and I will measure 1ml, fill and put it into the empty upright tank and take a picture, my juice is quite dark so should show better... The juice does not go to the bottom of the o ring as it looks like it does, I'd say the 1ml, most of it will run down the holes to the coil..I've always just filled it up and have never tried this yet...Hopefully it will be later this evening, Friday's are always busy at home here
 
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I recently got the Original Starre tank and absolutely love it. However, I wish I would have known/waited for the Pro but that seems to be my luck. I got the IPV, then I read about the IPV4S about a week or two later (that's somewhat ok as we now have the updated firmware). Same here, got the Starre, then heard about the Starre V3 & Pro a couple weeks later. Oh well, that's what you get for being in an industry that changes so fast I guess.
 

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I recently got the Original Starre tank and absolutely love it. However, I wish I would have known/waited for the Pro but that seems to be my luck. I got the IPV, then I read about the IPV4S about a week or two later (that's somewhat ok as we now have the updated firmware). Same here, got the Starre, then heard about the Starre V3 & Pro a couple weeks later. Oh well, that's what you get for being in an industry that changes so fast I guess.
True but the Starre is still an awesome tank !
 

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The original Starre tank should be in any collection!

I got super lucky. My Pro's came today and my Sig 75. I will be checking them out in just a bit. :)
Congrats, hope your happy with it, I've actually gone back to the 0.25ohm kanthal coils, Im a creature of habit, vape it at 55w or 60w, job done....really enjoying the top fill though, even if it takes longer to clean the tank..
 

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Congrats, hope your happy with it, I've actually gone back to the 0.25ohm kanthal coils, Im a creature of habit, vape it at 55w or 60w, job done....really enjoying the top fill though, even if it takes longer to clean the tank..

I am having massive leaking issue on one of these with a tight coils. Trying to figure it out. Twice, all over the new Sig.

My intial thought....... this is a spring issue, maybe with OG coils? Flood, flood, flood!

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I am having massive leaking issue on one of these with a tight coils. Trying to figure it out. Twice, all over the new Sig.

My intial thought....... one of these does not have the spring. There is your QC issue.

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Had one flooding issue but I filled it to much, been working great though today..I want the Segelei 75w too..
 

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I emailed to ask questions.

linda@freemaxvape.com

P.S. I am getting occasional dry hits doing all the standard prep work. I'm using the same coils that I use on my standard tanks .25's. I never get dry hits on my MaganusV2/Starre. This day is starting to REALLY suck. Can't even enjoy my new Sig 75 fooling around with the Starre. :(
 
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Yep, no spring in one of the tanks. You can shake it and it rattles like a paint can

Does this happen when the base and coil are screwed into the chimney section ? You should be able to push the top of the chimney when these are screwed together and can clearly feel the spring working, it only rattles like a paint can, or doesn't feel like there is a spring when the the chimney part isn't screwed into the base with the coil in..
 

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Does this happen when the base and coil are screwed into the chimney section ? You should be able to push the top of the chimney when these are screwed together and can clearly feel the spring working, it only rattles like a paint can, or doesn't feel like there is a spring when the the chimney part isn't screwed into the base with the coil in..

I edited my /\/\ post Rixsta. This is not a leak at the top cap of just things be pressurized.

I emptied it, cleaning now. I have lost a lot of good juice today. I'm just not sure what is going on. I mean I am not a total ding dong on using a top fill since I have a Crown also that I have no issues with, this should not be rocket science. I have to say the plug, play and vape award does not go to the Starre Pro right now. I have had over 20 tanks in 4 months and none have ever had this behavior or required this amount of trouble shooting.

So how far up do you fill yours up? My leaks pour out of the air vent with a firmly mounted coil so it has to be coming from the spring loaded chimney through the inside of the coil in some way. Maybe this is a vacuum/pressure issue & the way the tank is designed it is hard to see what is going on in the cavity behind the internal juice holes once assembled.

I am trying to also interpret their on/off switch verbiage in the manual. If I am having issues, I fear many are going to also. The Dry/burnt hit thing is also still prevalent, which is a secondary issue at this point even with priming.


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SD3614, I have this tank coming soon but don't have it yet. Only one thing comes to mind with your leaking-do you have the on/off switch in correct position, and did you use it while filling? There are a few YouTube videos stressing the importance of this, and stating it will leak if not done correctly.
 

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SD3614, I have this tank coming soon but don't have it yet. Only one thing comes to mind with your leaking-do you have the on/off switch in correct position, and did you use it while filling? There are a few YouTube videos stressing the importance of this, and stating it will leak if not done correctly.

So here is the thing. They do mention it and so does the book which I posted a pic of. I posted these questions to that video for clarification. They talk about burnt cotton, but I prime my Starre coils and I'm not new to them.

#1 (A) When they say "be sure to switch to off when you screw the cap on to prevent leakage" they don't say where this leakage my occur, but I think they mean the top cap area. Again they don't specify so this is all speculation. My Kanger Nano leaks juice when screwed together at the seal with high VG, but you just wipe it off so there's a leak and a LEAK . The only tank I have that LEAKS occasionally in the air valve is Subtank Plus which is well documented, but not like this. This is like you just turned a valve and it pours out. You see some weird stuff going with the juice levels even when it is not leaking because of that lower chamber (takes getting use to all the hidden juice that goes there)

#1 (B) - The whole let it set upright for 5 minutes when you refill, yeah I don't have to do that with other tanks but I could live with it.

#2 They don't say once the tank is put together do you leave the switch turned to the off position? I see people making mistakes trying to open the drip tip air flow and changing the switch position anyway. You have 2 things spinning up there.

#3 They don't say is there a reason or time the switch should be "on" is? Or to what need or benefit "on" provides, or at least I have not read or heard much on it anywhere.

#4 They also don't say or show images to give you an idea what is over filled, I can take my Crown right to where the dripper drops. Even if you do that with this tank the juice level goes lower in a moment as it gets sucked into the lower chamber so it does not stay full looking.

#5 I played around with the check valve spring assembly (base) by itself. It certainly can create what seems to be a sealed situation then suddenly a wide open scenario and since we don't have a bunch of spring loaded sub ohm tanks running around with movable chimneys it seems suspect by design. If I realized there was a spring in it I think I would have held off on ordering it honestly.

#6 If you put a "switch" on a tank you need to explain its purpose and be specific, if you say it can leak, where and how and how much? I would like to see a video of it done wrong maybe?

I feel like such a dumb azz with all the time and juice I wasted today. If I wanted to think this much about my tanks I would be into building.

Sorry, I am venting. This deflated all the joy of the Sig 75 that came which by the way is only one about ounce less than my 150. Heavy SOB. I still love my Maganus V2 which is a Starre tank so I wanted this tank work out as great as the Crown did, but so far not nearly as easy breezy.
 
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Sorry to hear about your issues. I got my Starre Pro today and I am loving it. Haven't had any issues with flooding/leaking or dry hits.

When I fill mine up I shut the airflow ring and unscrew the top cap, fill it with juice, put the cap back on and set the switch to off and vape away. I am using the .15 nickel coil but I did try a .5 kanthal OG starre coil and that worked fine too.

It sounds like you know what you are doing and following the directions properly, you must have just got a bad QC tank. If you have the switch set to off and still get leaking they messed up somewhere. That sucks...because mine has been good. It is exactly what I was hoping for... I wanted a tank that performed exactly like the OG Starre, with top fill and better build quality. Only build issue I have with mine is the tip is slightly wobbly. I do agree with you though...I think they made it more complicated than it needs to be. What is the point of having the "on" switch if you never need to use it? You can bet a v2 will be coming soon.

On a side note...I also got my Sigelei 75 today. I love the chip and performance but im kinda ...... about the build quality. One of my removable panels has a sizeable gap and my up/down buttons rattle. Any issues with yours?
 
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So here is the thing. They do mention it and so does the book which I posted a pic of. I posted these questions to that video for clarification. They talk about burnt cotton, but I prime my Starre coils and I'm not new to them.

#1 (A) When they say "be sure to switch to off when you screw the cap on to prevent leakage" they don't say where this leakage my occur, but I think they mean the top cap area. Again they don't specify so this is all speculation. My Kanger Nano leaks juice when screwed together at the seal with high VG, but you just wipe it off so there's a leak and a LEAK . The only tank I have that LEAKS occasionally in the air valve is Subtank Plus which is well documented, but not like this. This is like you just turned a valve and it pours out. You see some weird stuff going with the juice levels even when it is not leaking because of that lower chamber (takes getting use to all the hidden juice that goes there)

#1 (B) - The whole let it set upright for 5 minutes when you refill, yeah I don't have to do that with other tanks but I could live with it.

#2 They don't say once the tank is put together do you leave the switch turned to the off position? I see people making mistakes trying to open the drip tip air flow and changing the switch position anyway. You have 2 things spinning up there.

#3 They don't say is there a reason or time the switch should be "on" is? Or to what need or benefit "on" provides, or at least I have not read or heard much on it anywhere.

#4 They also don't say or show images to give you an idea what is over filled, I can take my Crown right to where the dripper drops. Even if you do that with this tank the juice level goes lower in a moment as it gets sucked into the lower chamber so it does not stay full looking.

#5 I played around with the check valve spring assembly (base) by itself. It certainly can create what seems to be a sealed situation then suddenly a wide open scenario and since we don't have a bunch of spring loaded sub ohm tanks running around with movable chimneys it seems suspect by design. If I realized there was a spring in it I think I would have held off on ordering it honestly.

#6 If you put a "switch" on a tank you need to explain its purpose and be specific, if you say it can leak, where and how and how much? I would like to see a video of it done wrong maybe?

I feel like such a dumb azz with all the time and juice I wasted today. If I wanted to think this much about my tanks I would be into building.

Sorry, I am venting. This deflated all the joy of the Sig 75 that came which by the way is only one about ounce less than my 150. Heavy SOB. I still love my Maganus V2 which is a Starre tank so I wanted this tank work out as great as the Crown did, but so far not nearly as easy breezy.

I sit here vaping my Starre Pro not knowing what to say, I have none off these problems, no dry hits either. I have no idea why it's dumping the whole tank out, its like seal that the coil pressed up to is missing but I'm sure you checked that. This sucks mate..It sounds like the tank floods before you even screw the top cap back on :(
As for the drip tip turning the bottom part to on, always turn it anti clockwise, works fine.
I always fill mine with the AFC off too and leave about a 5mm gap at the top, shouldn't really make much difference

I see kushy doesn't have any problems either, dunno...

@Kushy , the drip tip wobbles because it's a moving part I guess, you can't notice it when vaping so no biggy..
 
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