From Dr. Farsalinos: Evaluation of the cytotoxic potential of e-cigarette vapor on cultured cardiac cells

Discussion in 'Media and General News' started by AgentAnia, Oct 16, 2013.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Image has been removed.
URL has been removed.
Email address has been removed.
Media has been removed.
  1. AgentAnia

    AgentAnia Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Joined:
    May 22, 2013
    Location:
    Orbiting Sirius B
  2. Uma

    Uma Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2010
    Location:
    Calif
    Yes!! I think this is key for everybody's daily or weekly rotation. Having the knowledge, to make informed choices, for our individual needs. Thanks for posting this,
     
  3. pianoguy

    pianoguy Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2009
    Location:
    Apple Valley, MN
    The vast majority of us know that e-cigarettes are far less harmful, just based on changes that occur after switching. But having lab research such as this prove it in black and white is enormous.
     
  4. Anjaffm

    Anjaffm Dragon Lady ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2013
    Location:
    Germany
    Great, thank you very much!
    Shared in the German vapers forum.
     
  5. Spazmelda

    Spazmelda Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Location:
    Ohio
    I read (skimmed) this earlier this morning. It's a very nice study. I can see flavors being tested like this in the future. It won't be a definitive answer as to whether a particular flavor will do damage or not, but it could give us an idea of which to avoid.

    I liked how they addressed avoiding dry burn in the paper. :)
     
  6. 2coils

    2coils Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2012
    Location:
    New Jersey
    Characteristically, the worst performing e-liquids in our study were 3 times less toxic compared to cigarette smoke. These liquids were prepared by using tobacco leaves to extract the flavoring, and I believe e-cigarette users should make informed decisions on what to use.
    Sounds like NET's were the worst of the bunch (which were still much better than smoking!)?? At least if I am reading this right. As stated by Spazmelda, this study will prove to be a valuable tool moving forward to address concerns of certain flavors.
     
  7. bruiser

    bruiser Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2010
    Location:
    Louisville, KY
    For those interested, in the story you can d/l a PDF of the study. They name what they used. All liquids were European sourced, so, not being familiar with any of them, I won't mention them. However, I will mention the hardware. They used two devices. One was a standard Joye eGo at 3.7V. The other was a Lavatube at 4.5V. A 2.2 ohm atty was used.
     
  8. Uma

    Uma Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2010
    Location:
    Calif
    Don't quote me, I'm tired. On his Facebook page, he spent a lot of patience and time answering questions for us. From what I understand, all tested to date are acceptable, with home made real tobacco leaf extract pushing the line, yet still 3 kilometers (my paraphrase) away from the line compared to cigarettes. Cinnamon is in 2nd place. He said they'd have to test every single flavor to achieve a shopping chart. (My paraphrase). All in eye, all is good so far, but that we should take a little pause with whole leaf tobacco and cinnamon even though nothing suggests a pause. It's all good. He's going to write a layman page soon.

    Hmmm, tomorrow, maybe I can copy paste his words and avoid possible misunderstandings.
    G'night all.
     
  9. Dimitris

    Dimitris Super Member ECF Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2011
    Location:
    Georgia
    Dr Farsalinos will be our guest this Wed 10/23/13 on Vapers Place - VP Live Vape Team He will be discussing this study as well as taking your calls with any questions or comments. If you are unable to attend live you can leave a voicemail with your questions to 1-216-200-VAPE or email us info@vapeteam.com
     
  10. Dimitris

    Dimitris Super Member ECF Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2011
    Location:
    Georgia
    Tonight on the VapeTeam: “An Interview with Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos”! The doctor joins us live as we cover current e-cig issues and his newest study ("Evaluating the cytotoxic potential of e-cigarette vapor on cultured cardiac cells") which was published in the International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health. You are welcome to call in with your questions at 1-347-308-8329! Also meet “Runner X” - a man’s journey into highlighting the benefits of electronic cigarettes as harm reduction products, by running the 26.2 mile NYC Marathon on November 3rd while vaping! Tune in tonight 9:30pm EST at Vapers Place - VP Live Vape Team ~ You can also watch the VapeTeam from ANY mobile device via http://mobilestream.vapeteam.com or YouTube Live: Live Episodes - YouTube and Roku Streaming Boxes
     
  11. Luisa

    Luisa Super Member ECF Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2010
    Location:
    harlingen,texas
  12. AgentAnia

    AgentAnia Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Joined:
    May 22, 2013
    Location:
    Orbiting Sirius B
    Hi Dimitris. May I suggest for the future that an announcement like this surely merits its own thread, so people scanning thread titles will see it, read it, watch it?! :thumbs:
     
  13. Dimitris

    Dimitris Super Member ECF Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2011
    Location:
    Georgia
    Thanks we have a sub forum for upcoming shows along with the replays here : VP Live
     
  14. DrMA

    DrMA Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2013
    Location:
    Seattle area
    Interesting study by someone who appears to understand vaping (for example, the article discusses the "dry puff" phenomenon).

    Figure 2 - a picture speaks 1000 words:thumbs:
    Fig2.jpg
     
  15. David Muffmucher

    David Muffmucher Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2013
    Location:
    Bratislava, Slovakia
    Excellent study and post. We need more research such as this. Let's hope we get funding in the US so we can get more conclusive evidence. I look forward to randomized control trial like what was done in the Framingham study.
     
  16. Uma

    Uma Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2010
    Location:
    Calif
    I know, right. He is astonishingly knowledgeable, doesn't miss a beat. He's very thorough in his research, in the lab and the Vapers both. He is mountains above the antis who are so stuck on propaganda they can't think.
     
  17. Mr.Mann

    Mr.Mann Visit the PIF Sub-Forum Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2011
    Location:
    Detroit, Mi
    DAMNIT! Just last night and I missed it. I feel like such a dope!
     
  18. Dimitris

    Dimitris Super Member ECF Veteran

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2011
    Location:
    Georgia
    All of our replays are posted on Vape Team - YouTube iTunes SD and HD and Roku
     
  19. Mr.Mann

    Mr.Mann Visit the PIF Sub-Forum Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2011
    Location:
    Detroit, Mi
    Thanks. I will check it out, but here's the thing--I would've loved to have called in. That's why I feel like such a dope! I actually had questions. Man, there's so much to keep up with.

    Thanks again and I'll give it a listen.
     
  20. 2coils

    2coils Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Joined:
    Nov 29, 2012
    Location:
    New Jersey
    Great Job with the interview!!! I watched last night on replay. The Dr. F is really someone special!!!
     
: lavatube
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page